Primegrid Challenge Series

[outlnder]

OK, guys, I was the only person who put up some numbers in the last Challenge. This time I want some help.

Starting Nov. 11, 2010 at 1800 UTC (11am Pacific) the next Challenge begins. It only lasts for 24 hours, so we need everyone to be on time. Here's the link, http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/challenge.php.

The only work that counts is work downloaded after the start time and uploaded before the finish time. No stockpiling work and dumping. The Challenge project is the Sophie Germain Prime Search (LLR). These WUs take approximately 21 minutes on a fairly new machine. No GPU work units.

Come join me on Nov. 11 and represent Free-DC!!

[Bok]

I'll run some as it's only a short challenge..

[Bigred]

Great timing, Thursday to Friday. It'll get my support. I see that one of the projects supports Cuda. I'll switch my Nvidia cards over tomorrow and give Laurenu2 another chance of catching me at Milkyway. That should help move the team up through the ranks some. Anyone have any idea how much credit a GTX260 makes?

[outlnder]

You will need to keep a sharp eye on that cuda app. People have reported a lot of errors with it and it may need a special file.

[Bigred]

Dates are wrong. The challenge starts at 18:00 UTC on 17 Nov. until 18:00 UTC 18 Nov.
:Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes:

[outlnder]

Old Fa... BigRed is correct. Nov. 17th for 24 hours doing SGS LLR.

BE THERE!!

[Bigred]

22 hours until the start.:guntotin::guntotin::guntotin::guntotin:

[outlnder]

Don't be an hour early. 10am Pacific, 11am Mountain, 12pm Central, 1pm Eastern and something else everywhere else.

It's only 24 hours, so let's show some team spirit!!

Remember, only those work units DOWNLOADED after the starting time and UPLOADED before the ending time will count. DO NOT Stockpile a bunch of work prior to the starting time

[Bigred]

After 3 hours, it looks like it is just 3 of us verses 564 others.

The team (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2010_8/top_teams.html) ia at #26 with 2707.29 and moving up.

The individuals (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2010_8/top_users.html):

Bok at #256 with 384.32
outinder at #185 with 563.66
Bigred at #58 with 1759.31


We need more :help:

Lauren where are you? :gangpunch

[outlnder]

Alrighty then,

The Final results for the Challenge were very good.

Free- DC came in 23rd out of 221 teams.

BigRed was our flag barer coming in at 46th

Outlnder followed at 172

And Bok came in at 324.

I think that was all that participated from Free-DC, but if I missed you, please chime in.

This was a good showing, but I know we can do better. We did beat Ars (42).

The next Challenge will be the Winter Solstice Challenge Dec. 18-21. Get ready!!

[Bok]

I put my two quads in and out at the exact times :)

[Bigred]

Am I mistaken or will the next challenge let me use my Nvidia GPUs?:eat:

If so,I've got 9 GTX 260s that should add a little firepower.:guntotin:

[Bok]

yup, there's a CUDA client..

[Bigred]

Ok everybody the Challenge is coming up soon and we need some help. Last one there were just three of us. This will basically be a GPU slugfest but CPUs are appreciated too. This project Really likes Nvidia cards. ATIs are OK but they are difficult to get running. And before you say my card is too old to run Cuda applications here is a list of cards that are known to work.


FERMI
Nvidia GTX 460 403s 6.7m Win7 64-bit


GTX, GTS, & GT 2XX series
Nvidia GTX 285 847s 14.1m Darwin
Nvidia GTX 280 1,055s 17.6m Vista HP 64-bit
Nvidia GTX 275 869s 14.5m XP Pro 64-bit
Nvidia GTX 260 (216) 1,033s 17.2m Vista ULT 64-bit
Nvidia GTX 260 (192) 1,346s 22.4m Win7 64-bit
Nvidia GTS 250 1,282s 21.4m Win7 HP 64-bit
Nvidia GTX 260M 2,083s 34.7m Win7 HP 64-bit
Nvidia GT 240 2,150s 35.8m Win7 HP 64-bit
Nvidia GT 230 2,404s 40.1m Win7 HP 64-bit
Nvidia GT 220 4,354s 72.6m XP Pro 32-bit

GTS & GT 1XX series
Nvidia GT 120 6,472s 107.9m Darwin

9000 series
Nvidia 9800 GX2 1,547s 25.8m XP Pro 32-bit
Nvidia 9800 GTX+ 1,337s 22.3m Vista ULT 64-bit
Nvidia 9800 GT 1,554s 25.9m Win7 64-bit
Nvidia 9600 GSO 1,741s 29.0m XP Pro 32-bit
Nvidia 9600 GSO (512) 3,880s 64.7m Win7 ULT 64-bit
Nvidia 9500 GT 6,621s 110.4m Vista HP 32-bit
Nvidia 9400 GT (32 shader) 6,766s 112.8m Win7 Ent 64-bit

8000 series
Nvidia 8800 GTS (512) 1,305s 21.8m Win7 ULT 64-bit
Nvidia 8800 GT 1,544s 25.7m XP Pro 64-bit
Nvidia 8800 GTX 1,738s 29.0m Vista HP 64-bit
Nvidia 8800 GS 1,993s 33.2m XP Pro 32-bit
Nvidia 8800 GTS (340) 2,254s 37.6m Vista HP 32-bit
Nvidia 8600 GTS 6,347s 105.8m Win7 Ent 64-bit
Nvidia 8700M GT 7,136s 118.9m Vista ULT 64-bit
Nvidia 8500 GT 19,610s 326.8m XP Pro 32-bit
Nvidia 8400M GS 2,2865s 381.1m Vista HP 32-bit

Quadro
Quadro FX 4800 1,311s 21.9m Darwin
Quadro FX 3800 1,334s 22.2m Server 2008 64-bit
Quadro FX 880M 5,154s 85.9m Win7 ULT 64-bit
Quadro FX 580 8,196s 136.6m XP Pro 64-bit
Quadro FX 1700 9,821s 163.7m XP Pro 64-bit


The only issue that I know of is that you need .NET3.5 to make it work in windows and the times above are outdated as the new WUs are larger.

Ati cards are a completely different story. They are not as fast here (my GTX260 out performs a HD5850 here) and they are a PITA to setup. The require an app_info_xml file at this time but the project is working on it.

:Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes:

[Bigred]

Just in case anybody is interested, we've moved from #50 to #31 in RAC in the last 24 hours. All thanks to a team effort.
http://bestsmileys.com/sports1/25.gif

[Bok]

I think you may well be passing me in the next few days :)

We need to get Lauren's cards running it too :) Looks like they are trying hard to get the ATI cards running natively and Fermi class nvidia cards are working out the box now...

[Bigred]

I think you may well be passing me in the next few days :)

We need to get Lauren's cards running it too :) Looks like they are trying hard to get the ATI cards running natively and Fermi class nvidia cards are working out the box now...

Luc is running a single Fermi and the results are awesome.:thumbs:

I've still got four Nvidia machines to get switched over, hopefully by the end of the week.

I'm going to wait and see if they get the ATI situation straightened out before the challenge. If they do then all of mine will be there too. I believe Lauren is going to do the same.

If everything works out then the four of us should be kicking out well over 3 Mil. a day. Throw in what everyone else is doing and we should do well for the challenge.

[Bok]

I've actually got a couple of other cards, just no active machines. I'm sure I could get a few running and just use the GPU's on them. Maybe :)

Luc's is from a single Fermi ?? Wow, what is it ?

[LAURENU2]

I think you may well be passing me in the next few days :)

We need to get Lauren's cards running it too :) Looks like they are trying hard to get the ATI cards running natively and Fermi class nvidia cards are working out the box now...
I tried on a few all with a no-go I will try some more but all I have are ATI's

[Bigred]

I've actually got a couple of other cards, just no active machines. I'm sure I could get a few running and just use the GPU's on them. Maybe :)

Luc's is from a single Fermi ?? Wow, what is it ?

The more the merrier.:hiya:

Luc's is a GTX470 and I've sent a special request to Santa for one.
http://bestsmileys.com/christmas1/1.gif

[Bigred]

We're now up to #24 for RAC. :thumbs:

Hopefully I'll get at least two more boxes converted tomorrow.

[Bigred]

Things seem to be lining up well for the upcoming challenge.

Bok is cruising right along with his Nvidia card.:beep:

Lauren is getting his ATI firepower setup.:machgun:

I've got my 9 GTX260s, 3 HD5850s, 1 HD4870 and 1 HD4850 munching right along.:bigtrain:
I've got 3 more ATIs to setup tomorrow and I hope my other one is back from repair in time.

Between the three of us and everyone crunching on thier CPUs, I figure we should be able to do about 3 Mil. a day.

To anybody running a Nvidia card on another project, you will get about 3 times the credit here. If you're running an ATI card and need help getting it working here, just ask. If I can get Lauren through it, I can help anybody. ATI work requires HD48xx and up.

Currently we're at #20 RAC and #37 Total credit. The next team we should pass is Russia.

[Bigred]

We're now at #19 RAC and #36 Total.:thumbs:
Bye bye team Russia.:stomp:
Next up is Team Musketeers.:eat:
:roadkill:

outinder, coming through.:beep:

[LAURENU2]

OK got my gpu's upgraded and working :thumbs: (thanks Bigred)
But 3 of the do not like the project :mad:
they do all Error WU's so they will stay on MY
I could throw in 300 Ghz of CPU power
For that weekend to
:bigtrain::bigtrain::bigtrain:

[Bok]

Nice Lauren, a silver (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=user&proj=pgrid&name=57014) badge in the subproject already too just from today!

Bok

[LAURENU2]

Nice Lauren, a silver (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=user&proj=pgrid&name=57014) badge in the subproject already too just from today!

Bok
And only 4 of 7 are showing up yet

[Bigred]

As I predicted, we hit 3 million yesterday.:guntotin::guntotin::guntotin::guntotin:

And we passed Team Muskateers.:stomp:

Next up, US Navy.:bouncy:

[Beyond]

If they get the ATI's running natively, I will jump in for the challenge.

[LAURENU2]

If they get the ATI's running natively, I will jump in for the challenge.
Most of my ATI's are are running this Ask Bigred

[Bigred]

If they get the ATI's running natively, I will jump in for the challenge.

HD4870 and up run just fine but you must have .NET 3.5SP1 and the Catalyst 10.10 (apps) driver installed. Please note this is not the normal driver but it is the one required to run OpenCl. Also the Cat 10.11 drivers have not been tested With OpenCl 1.1. If you are running a HD4850 or below you will need an app_info.xml file to keep it from erroring out all the WUs. I have one if you need it.

[Beyond]

I guess I will need the app_thingy, I have 9 of the 4850's plus some newer GPU's.

[Bigred]

I guess I will need the app_thingy, I have 9 of the 4850's plus some newer GPU's.

Ok here is the step by step guide,
1. Attach to prime grid with one box.
2. Go to your account there and verify you have the 1.4.838 driver (for XP32bit)installed. This is important as this is the apps driver which includes support for OpenCl. The regular driver does not have this.
3. Change your preferences so that only the ATI gpu is checked and only PPS sieve is checked.
4. Let Boinc download some work and then shut it down.
5 Copy the following and paste it into notepad. Save it as app_info.xml


<app_info>
<app>
<name>pps_sr2sieve</name>
<user_friendly_name>Proth Prime Search (Sieve)</user_friendly_name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>primegrid_tpsieve_1.35_windows_intelx86__ati13ati.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>pps_sr2sieve</app_name>
<version_num>135</version_num>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1</max_ncpus>
<flops>1.0e11</flops>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
<cmdline></cmdline>
<file_ref>
<file_name>primegrid_tpsieve_1.35_windows_intelx86__ati13ati.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>llrTPS</name>
<user_friendly_name>Sophie Germain Prime Search (LLR)</user_friendly_name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>primegrid_llr_wrapper_5.11_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>llr.ini.5.09</name>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>primegrid_llr_5.09_windows_intelx86.exe.orig</name>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>llrTPS</app_name>
<version_num>511</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>1.000000</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.000000</max_ncpus>
<flops>1788215593.929880</flops>
<api_version>5.09</api_version>
<file_ref>
<file_name>primegrid_llr_wrapper_5.11_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>llr.ini.5.09</file_name>
<open_name>llr.ini.5.09</open_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>primegrid_llr_5.09_windows_intelx86.exe.orig</file_name>
<open_name>primegrid_llr_5.09_windows_intelx86.exe.orig</open_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>



6 Find the Application data folder. Under it should be one for Boinc. Under that one should be one for projects. Under that should be one for Primegrid. In other words:application data\boinc\projects\www.primegrid.com. Copy the app_info.xml into the Primegrid folder and restart Boinc.

This is only necessary for HD4850 and below, Everything else works without it. Make sure .NET3.5SP1 is installed.
Let me know if you need more help.

[Beyond]

Thanks ... will give it try later in the week. I did get 1 of the GTX-260's and HD 5850's running for a short test. the HD 5770 error'ed out but i think it has .net 4?

[Bigred]

Thanks ... will give it try later in the week. I did get 1 of the GTX-260's and HD 5850's running for a short test. the HD 5770 error'ed out but i think it has .net 4?

Great. More than likely the problem is the driver. I can't tell though because your computers are hidden.

[Beyond]

They are visible now, I think it is a corrupt driver install. I noticed this morning when attempting to get it to run again tiny orange dots started popping up on the screen, they go away as soon as I shut boinc down. ... will try to download and re-install this evening.

[PCZ]

Beware the dark horse !

Oh yeah sieve faster i want some well sieved pairs to LLR test :)

[Bigred]

I munching on them as fast as I can.:eat:

[Bigred]

They are visible now, I think it is a corrupt driver install. I noticed this morning when attempting to get it to run again tiny orange dots started popping up on the screen, they go away as soon as I shut boinc down. ... will try to download and re-install this evening.

The driver is the correct one but it might be a corrupt install. I believe from your description it may be overheating. Download and run GPU-Z (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/) and check your temps. It could be as simple as blowing out the heatsink, a failing fan or a power problem.

[Beyond]

I got one of the HD 4850's running with the new 10-12 driver released today w/o the need for the app_info file on Win7_64, now if it will work on XP_64 I'm in business. I will try one of the HD 5770's with this driver too and report back.



/edit/ On the 5770 I at first thought it was another failure ... 1st 3 wu's errored after only 3 or 4 seconds, but the fourth one is still running. checked the failed wu's and all have multiple failures.

Next question, how are cpu's like on this project, worth the effort?

[LAURENU2]

Ya how long are CPU WU's
What are CPU points worth

[Bigred]

Ya how long are CPU WU's
What are CPU points worth

Very long. 12 to 28 hours on a q6600. Flate rate credit of 2312 per WU for the PPS seive WUs. The problem is that only WUs downloaded and returned during the challenge count. That means that only work downloaded after 18:00 utc 18 Dec. (13:00 eastern time) will count. It does not help if you have a large cache. I've set mine to connect every 0 days and maintain additional work for 0 days.

We're at #31 for total credit and closing rapidly on Boinc@heidelberg.:guntotin:

[PCZ]

Tried running the sieve jobs on a CPU, they are quite slow.
Probably 12 hours on a q6600.
Assuming you have 4 jobs running in parallel then it should be possible to do 8 a day.
Around 18K cobblestones per q6600/day

Long term i wouldn't use a CPU to sieve, video cards do it so much better.
However for the duration of the challenge it would be worth doing if someone had lots of CPU's

[PCZ]

Everone set for the PG challenge ?
ATI cards behaving now ?

I fully expect to be beaten by BigRed, if not questions will be raised :) :guntotin:

[Bigred]

Everone set for the PG challenge ?
ATI cards behaving now ?

I fully expect to be beaten by BigRed, if not questions will be raised :) :guntotin:

All cards running and one more little trick to setup tomorrow.:thumbs:

ATIs are fine but there is a possible CUDA problem. If you have the Cuda 1.36 application running, you need to do a reset to get the 1.37 application.:scratch:

I'll do my best to make as much credit as possible.
After all this is a team effort.:eat::eat::eat::eat::eat:

[LAURENU2]

All Mine that can Tick are Ticking
And if they stop Ticking I will Kick
them to start them Ticking Again

Hi Ho Hi Ho off to work I go

[Bigred]

I fully expect to be beaten by BigRed, if not questions will be raised :) :guntotin:

:rotfl: I see (http://www.primegrid.com/hosts_user.php?userid=490) that you brought the big guns. Not much chance of me beating that.

http://bestsmileys.com/army/7.gif

With all the prepration for the challenge the team is now at #26 for total credit.:thumbs:

Next victims: Dutch Power Cows and TeAm AnandTech.
http://bestsmileys.com/shooting2/3.gif

[PCZ]

OOPS!!
Showed my hand a little early.

What's the ETA on the DPC overtake ?

Over the years i have learned that it is not wise to prod the cows !
Best to sneak past in the dark.
Bit late now, one of them is bound to read this thread.


BTW
It's freezing outside and snowed earlier yet i am sweating indoors with the windows open. :crazy:
GPU's are powerful all right but they run hot and cost a lot to feed.
Don't expect this level of participation long term.

[Bigred]

OOPS!!
Showed my hand a little early.

What's the ETA on the DPC overtake ?

Over the years i have learned that it is not wise to prod the cows !
Best to sneak past in the dark.
Bit late now, one of them is bound to read this thread.


BTW
It's freezing outside and snowed earlier yet i am sweating indoors with the windows open. :crazy:
GPU's are powerful all right but they run hot and cost a lot to feed.
Don't expect this level of participation long term.

Cow tipping complete.
http://bestsmileys.com/cowboy1/15.gif

We've got the same weather here. Today at the shop I had the windows open, the heat off and it was still 28c inside. I'm lucky since I don't have to pay for the juice that makes them run. Winters are toasty but in the summer, I have to shut some of it down.

[Chuck]

Gang,
I'm on site at my customer location and have only my laptops here. They are putting up some numbers (PLEASE DON'T LAUGH)..... but I'm doing what I can in sub-zero (F) temps. Power is too unstable to bring up the big boxen in spite of the nice heat I would get. I have 2 (of 3 possible, but 3 saturates the DDR3) AMD cores in the N850 Ph II w/ 1 ATI 57xx integrated GPU and the Sony/nVidia laptop (c2d v2 on FC-13).... The nVidia is not CUDA23 compatible so I'm just running PPS sieves (CPU) as best I can. Hope this helps... the day is 3/4 over as I write this and I have my largest production day in Pgrid history so far.... a few more thousand credits to come. Again, hope it helps. AMDs and GPUs sieve nice, Intels and GPUs are nice for LLR. DDR5 main mem would be sweet but not yet too practical in a laprock. :)

Seasons Greetings to all, may you be safe and happy!!!

Cheers,
Chuck

[Bigred]

Chuck, all help is greatly appreciated.:cheers:

Just 3 hours into the challenge and PCZ is kicking (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2010_9/top_users.html) butt at #6. http://bestsmileys.com/kick/2.gif
The team is at (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2010_9/top_teams.html) #14. :clap::clap:

[PCZ]

Bigred
I'm not seeing you here
http://boincstats.com/stats/challenge_stats.php?pr=pg&object=user&challenge=27&type=credit&st=0&or=

You may have been crunching on some jobs downloaded before 18:00UTC.

[Bigred]

Bigred
I'm not seeing you here
http://boincstats.com/stats/challenge_stats.php?pr=pg&object=user&challenge=27&type=credit&st=0&or=

You may have been crunching on some jobs downloaded before 18:00UTC.

I'm coming. It just takes my steam loco a while to build up speed unlike your bullet train. You're right I did have some older WUs but since all my rigs are at work, I set the cache as low as possible and just have to wait for them to run out. The last time I checked (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2010_9/top_users.html), I was at #91 and on the move.
:bigtrain:

[Bigred]

Current standings with just over 2 days to go.
Team is at #14

PCZ at #6 :train:
Bigred at #60 :bigtrain:
BOK at #317 :machgun:
Laurenu2 at #474 :rsniper:
Chuck at #1186 :flame:

[AMDave]

Someone needs to call the fire brigade and tell them where to find more water!
Great to see you guys in the comps again!

PS -
was that a truck full of ALICE that I just saw pulling into your place on the satellite, PCZ?
I saw the market price go up but I thought it was just my imagination. LOL

http://amdusers.com/forum/showthread.php?5700-1-Million-in-Prime-Grid&p=69250#post69250
:P

[PCZ]

The team has done well.
Looks likely we will finish in the top 20, (16th)

Considering how few in number we are thats a great result. :thumbs:

http://boincstats.com/stats/challenge_stats.php?pr=pg&challenge=27


ALICE :confused:
as in alice springs ie:water :idea:

It's snowing in the UK at the moment, mother nature is providing a plentiful supply of freezing cold air to cool the GPU's.
I'm using enviromentally friendly aircon, opening a window :D

[Chuck]

What are the final standings for each of the contributors ? I'm curious how this laptop gpu has done (yes, just 1 GPU running)

C.

Edit: per last update @ 23:16 Z , I got knocked down a few places (a mere 3 WUs) :(

Edit: As the Validator cleans up the WUs in the queue, it seems I gained back 1..... one can hope for more

[AMDave]

...
ALICE :confused:
as in alice springs ie:water :idea:
...
No. Although that would be topical given the inclement antipodean weather that we are experiencing. ;)

What I am referring to is Aluminium-Ice Propellant (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CFgQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpdf.aiaa.org%2Fpreview%2FCDReadyMJPC09_1980%2FPV2009_4877.pdf&rct=j&q=ALICE%20propellant&ei=Hb0RTf7QIpSjcamx2eIK&usg=AFQjCNEnyoOgILN74GHbeuQJ7PlxsD70Fg&sig2=0-9gEe6zrh9dwwSpc6QDvA&cad=rja)
It's very hot stuff :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALICE_%28propellant%29

[PCZ]

Oh rocket fuel :)

Couldn't find a drop anywhere.
Sicituradastra must have bought it all seeing as how there so desperate to reach the stars. :firedevil:

[Bigred]

The 2011 challenge series is going to kickoff on 3 Feb at 18:00 UTC and run for 3 days. This one will be PPS (LLR) a CPU only subproject (Lauren :Pokes:). All hungry CPUs are welcome.:eat:

Average WU time is about 10 minutes.:guntotin:

[outlnder]

I'll be there with what little I have left.

[Bok]

I"ll run it.

[Bigred]

I'm on the board (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_1/top_users.html).:moto:

Free-DC (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_1/top_teams.html) is at #24.

[LAURENU2]

I'm on the board (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_1/top_users.html).:moto:

Free-DC (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_1/top_teams.html) is at #24.
Ya and you must have Busted it To haha

[Chuck]

My congrats to whomever broke it...... it's not often PG fails to respond to a simply refresh but easily understandable given the DB state that PG can't keep up with you big guns (CPU = 30+ on Xeons). All I can say is I will keep my :guntotin: going while you experts hit it with the good :machgun:


PS: got the ATI SDK installled in 64 bit linux and think I might be able to join you soon with my GPUs.

[Bigred]

Status update.

Team is still at #24:thumbs:

Bigred #32
Outlnder #245
Bok #256
Chuck #319
JasonGoatcher #454

So at this point it is 5 of us against the world (about 1200 people).
http://bestsmileys.com/violent/8.gif

[Chuck]

Gang,
I just added another one to the works... that will help. I checked the 'pending' queue and their transitioner backlog must be nearly a full day at this point. I have over 2600 sitting there, waiting for credit to be granted.

PS: Just checked stats. (1491 participants)


FDC is still holding #24 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

37 - Bigred
239 - Bok
251 - Outlnder
306 - Chuck
411 - Jason



Thanks,
C

[Chuck]

:Pokes:ANYONE care to jump in and join us? The swim:bath: is just perfect!!!

Having tons of fun and we are holding firm and :lawn: with what is now 1650+ participants.

FDC is still #24.... Rock On!! :rock:


Will report some stats later... Could use 1 or 2 more users... I know some of you are holding up the Team standings in our absence... :cheers:

[Chuck]

Stats update - 1949 Z - 5-Feb-2011 -- Posted at 3:02 PM EST (Updated time of this post)

55 - Bigred
227 - Bok
286 - Outlnder
303 - Chuck
437 - Carlos
445 - Jason
1061 - Nebojsa

We are down 1 to 25th rank. (There are 2100+ participants) ---- The big :machgun: are here


C.

[Bigred]

I just checked and I've got over 42,000 in pending credit. There is also 1,154,000 awaiting validation.

[Chuck]

Not surprised... My score indicates I've done nothing, but I turn in at least 3 every 2 mins. I haven't bothered to check what's in pending... it's gotta be outrageous.

Just checked... they've also got the backlog off... Oh well, it's not like the CPU load indicators are showing it as idle. :)

Edit: Going to post/edit our stats update every 8 hrs or so unless requested otherwise. Anyone needing the link it's here (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_1/top_users.html)

[Bok]

The challenge data includes the pending from what I've read though...

[Chuck]

Hmmmmm, interesting... based on what I see and knowing I get about 4.5 credits/WU under normal circumstances, we shouldn't be falling so far behind unless we are REALLY that low-powered or prefs are mis-configured somewhere... I did double-check mine. It's behaving like it's lagging somewhere, just wish I could figure it out... I KNOW you should not have lost so much ground... it looks like you lost a serious bunch of machines and that's just not possible.

Edit: if it doesn't start to validate it, it won't jump in the 'pending' column. It has to at least check the WU status code before it computes the pending..... i may be wrong as this is a special config set for high volume.

[Chuck]

....... Aaaaaand as they're rounding the final turn, coming into the home stretch towards the finish line, it's.............

61 - Bigred
213 - Bok
285 - Outlnder
310 - Chuck
447 - Jason
505 - Carlos
1254 - Nebojsa

... Putting "Free-DC" Stables ahead by a nose in 28th position.

[mattozan]

Anyone doing the next challenge: Marie-Sophie Germain, April 1-3 (http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=3220&nowrap=true#34667)?

I'll be running my Q6600 on it for the 48 hr duration.

No GPU client for this, so the GTX 460s will keep working on PPS Sieve...

[Bigred]

I'll put some on it.:eat:

[Bigred]

Looks (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_3/top_teams.html) like it is just the two of us,so far.:Pokes:

I woukd say that 29th is not too bad considering.:guntotin:

[mattozan]

Looks (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_3/top_teams.html) like it is just the two of us,so far.:Pokes:

I woukd say that 29th is not too bad considering.:guntotin:
Yeah, not bad at all! :cheers:

[LAURENU2]

I pointed a few nodes here but not getting any work ?
I guess I will have to look at the settings :bang:

[mattozan]

Yeah, not bad at all! :cheers:

I'm maxed out. But with just a bit more help, I think Free-DC could beat Ars Technica!

[LAURENU2]

I pointed a few nodes here but not getting any work ?
I guess I will have to look at the settings :bang:
OK Fixed it :thumbs: I got 80 core's working it now Better late then never :blush:

[mattozan]

OK Fixed it :thumbs: I got 80 core's working it now Better late then never :blush:

Awesome! 19th and climbing! You and Bigred are both outgunning me. I've got 10 cores going.

[Bigred]

Awesome! 19th and climbing! You and Bigred are both outgunning me. I've got 10 cores going.

Looks like we ended up with #17.:rock: which I think is pretty good for just three of us.:cheers:

Next challenge is from 5 to 13 May, The Riesel Problem (LLR) which once again is a CPU application.:Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes:

[LAURENU2]

Is there a separate spreadsheet for this run ?

[Bigred]

Is there a separate spreadsheet for this run ?

I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for.:scratch:

Ranking list for individuals for this challenge is here (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_3/top_users.html).

Ranking list for teams for this challenge is here (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_3/top_teams.html).

Ranking list for individuals for the year is here (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/ITotal.pdf).

Ranking list for teams for the year is here (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/TTotal.pdf).

Seeing as how we completely missed the second challenge, if we want to move up the list for the year, we will need more help on the rest of the challenges this year.:Pokes:

[LAURENU2]

Stop poking in that spot I,m getting sore there
I tried on the last one but I had my setting to only get GPU
By the time I noticed I had No work it was almost over
Almost like this one to :bang:
Ya the links were what I was looking for thanks

[Bigred]

Stop poking in that spot I,m getting sore there
I tried on the last one but I had my setting to only get GPU
By the time I noticed I had No work it was almost over
Almost like this one to :bang:
Ya the links were what I was looking for thanks

I can use this one http://bestsmileys.com/poking/1.gif

or this one http://bestsmileys.com/poking/3.gif

or this one. http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Others/others-161.gif

I wouldn't use this one though. http://bestsmileys.com/poking/4.gif

Even considering your late start, you did the best on the team. http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Happy/happy-102.gif
At least you tried which is more than I can say for most around here. :thumbs:

[mattozan]

Next challenge is from 5 to 13 May, The Riesel Problem (LLR) which once again is a CPU application.:Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes:

I just "found" eight more cores around here that I can throw at the next challenge. It's on my calendar!

[Bigred]

The next challenge starts in less than two weeks (5 May). :guntotin:
It will be a TRP challenge and the WUs will take about 5-8 hours to complete. So, who's going to help the team with this?:Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes::Pokes:

[Bok]

I'll do it as long as I remember.. :)

[Chuck]

You can count me in unless I have to depart on travel early. Travel should not interfere with the challenge unless moved up by more than a week.

C.

[mattozan]

I'm throwing it all I've got!

[Bigred]

Looks like it should be a pretty good turn out.:thumbs:

Earth to Lauren.:couchsleep:
Earth to Lauren.:couchsleep:
I just want to make sure you know that this is a CPU subproject for this challenge. We wouldn't want a repeat of what happened last time.:umm:

[LAURENU2]

OK OK I get the thread drift i will Be there in full force:blush: OK

[Bigred]

OK OK I get the thread drift i will Be there in full force:blush: OK

http://bestsmileys.com/big/1.gif

[LAURENU2]

OK so how does this one work
It starts on what 5/4/11? And to when
Does the D/L of the WU have to be After the start time or
Can we start early and buffer

[mattozan]

OK so how does this one work
It starts on what 5/4/11? And to when
Does the D/L of the WU have to be After the start time or
Can we start early and buffer

Only WUs downloaded after May 4, 18:00 UTC will count toward the challenge. Also, WUs must be submitted before the end time of 18:00 UTC on May 13 in order to be counted toward the challenge.

I think it's best to set your PG preferences to TRP LLR only, and set the BOINC client to "No new tasks." Abort and flush any tasks in your queue. Then at 18:00 UTC, switch BOINC to "Allow new tasks" and hit "Update."

Then be sure to also flush all completed WUs before the deadline at 18:00 UTC on May 13th.

:fireboun: Now that it's warming up where I live, I'm taking down my GPU rig for the summer. I will resurrect it in June for the 24 hour CW Sieve Challenge, though! :thumbs:

[Bigred]

I think it's best to set your PG preferences to TRP LLR only, and set the BOINC client to "No new tasks." Abort and flush any tasks in your queue. Then at 18:00 UTC, switch BOINC to "Allow new tasks" and hit "Update."

Then be sure to also flush all completed WUs before the deadline at 18:00 UTC on May 13th.

:fireboun: Now that it's warming up where I live, I'm taking down my GPU rig for the summer. I will resurrect it in June for the 24 hour CW Sieve Challenge, though! :thumbs:

This will work fine if you only have a few boxes but I think Lauren needs a different approach. Two possible solutions are:

1. Attach to PG ahead of time and set resource share to 0. Make sure that only TRP is checked and only use CPU is checked. At the start set the resource share to something like 10,000 and do a project update on all computers.

2. Go ahead and attach and set the keep work for additional days to 0. You should only have 1 WU per core and when it is done it is replaced. Not the most elegant solution but it's what I use.

If my math is right, 1800 UTC should be 11am Chicago time.

[Bigred]

Update.

My math in the previous message was wrong.:o

1800 UTC is 1300 CDT.

For anybody that needs to convert time for where they live, here (http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc) is a handy converter.

I've been running some test WUs and they are taking 20 - 21 hours on a Q6600.:eat:

[LAURENU2]

What is "TRP is checked" :bang:
Edit
oups I think I figured it out

The Riesel Problem

[Bigred]

The countdown (http://www.primegrid.com/) has started.
:Pokes:

[LAURENU2]

Update.

My math in the previous message was wrong.:o

1800 UTC is 1300 CDT.



OK I turn on Allow New Tasks after 1 PM on Thursday 5/5/11
An it runs till 1 PM on Friday 5/13/11

[Bigred]

OK I turn on Allow New Tasks after 1 PM on Thursday 5/5/11
An it runs till 1 PM on Friday 5/13/11

:thumbs:

That's right. Tomorrow is the day it starts.:guntotin:

[LAURENU2]

OK I;m all set :thumbs: But I might be 1 Hr late :hair: So it OK to start without me:blush:
I will still be out in the field working to pay for all this electricity about that time.
:idea:Is there a android app for VNC so I could log onto My Net from the field

[Bigred]

OK I;m all set :thumbs: But I might be 1 Hr late :hair: So it OK to start without me:blush:
I will still be out in the field working to pay for all this electricity about that time.
:idea:Is there a android app for VNC so I could log onto My Net from the field

I found this (http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Network/Android-VNC-Viewer-71842.shtml) one but I don't know anything about it.:dunno:

Just over 12 hours to go before the start.

[mattozan]

:idea:Is there a android app for VNC so I could log onto My Net from the field

I use Teamviewer (http://www.teamviewer.com/)for remote access. It's cross-platform, like traditional VNC, and also has an Android app. And all free!

[mattozan]

I've got my main 14 cores all lined up and ready to go. I'm hoping to bring four more on by this evening (but I forgot to leave my computer at home powered on so I could configure it from work :sack: ).

That's one thing I still need to get working, Remote WakeOnLan for my home network. I've downloaded the Depicus (http://www.depicus.com/wake-on-lan/woli.aspx) Android app, but I haven't set it all up or tested it.

[Chuck]

I'm all set. I have a few pps_sieve tasks running on the GPU, but since this is cpu-only, I will be all set and starting at 1400 EDT (allow new tasks).

Please advise if we have a different team plan via direct email or pm.

Don't worry, the PPS_Sieve tasks were already in the queue. My preferences are set to TRP only.

Tnx,
C

[Chuck]

Tasks loaded up and running... Both machines on Linux. cllr estimates for AMD on linux is 12 hours, 44 hours for win7. no brainer, eh?

C.

[Bigred]

I put eight quads on it. We should start seeing results some time tomorrow.

[Bigred]

The team is in 25th spot with only 5 of us working it. :clap:
We need more power.:Pokes:

[Chuck]

I've got over 2000 points sitting in the 'pending credit' queue with credit only given for 2 WUs so far. What gives?

[mattozan]

I've got over 2000 points sitting in the 'pending credit' queue with credit only given for 2 WUs so far. What gives?

Yeah, I've got >4000 units in pending credit. I think it's just that the validator gets overwhelmed during these challenges.

But don't worry--as long as the completed WU was uploaded before the challenge deadline, the credit will be awarded. It will take the validator some time after the challenge is over to work through all of the WUs. The final results will be accurate, though.

Also, I've "found" two more cores here, and put them online for the challenge. They are taking ~15 hours per WU, but every little bit helps! :thumbs:

[mattozan]

14 Ars Technica 325931.94
15 Free-DC 304233.20


We are again in striking distance from Ars Technica. This time I think we have the horsepower to beat them. Especially with Laurenu2 out front!! :auto:

[LAURENU2]

members
http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_4/top_users.html

Teams
http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_4/top_teams.html

Free-DC is at the # 13 spot now we passed Ars Technica
#13 _Free-DC _413472.54

[outlnder]

Sorry I'm late. Only have 4 cores to contribute.

[mattozan]

Sorry I'm late. Only have 4 cores to contribute.

:hifi: Woohoo! More cores!

[Bigred]

:cry:We've slipped back to 14th.

But still that is better than most of the other teams.:clap:

Just about half way done.

[Bigred]

Now down to 15th.:cry:

[Chuck]

wow. this is sad.

I'm pushing 5 out every 11 hours (average).... I know it's not much, but it sure doesn't help when they sit in 'pending credit'.

Suggestions? (like break out the Opteron 250's & turn up the A/C ? )


PS: at least we are still ahead of ARS... now to take Navy down... true?

[mattozan]

wow. this is sad.

I'm pushing 5 out every 11 hours (average).... I know it's not much, but it sure doesn't help when they sit in 'pending credit'.


Don't worry- that pending credit will all tally for you and for Free-DC in the end. They are just WUs waiting for a quorum of other results for validation checking.


at least we are still ahead of ARS... now to take Navy down... true?

15th looks pretty solid. Navy is 250,000 ahead, and Ars don't seem to be gaining any ground on us.

Make sure you flush all completed WUs prior to the deadline Friday! That can make a big difference in your challenge score. If the WU is completed before the deadline, but isn't reported and uploaded before the deadline, it won't count toward the challenge (just toward your regular stats).

In the BOINC client (Advanced View), just select "PrimeGrid" on the "Projects" tab, and hit the "Update" button. The server will be called and all 100% finished WUs will be reported & uploaded.

[mattozan]

:rock:By getting 200 team points for 15th place, I think we're going to jump 6 or 7 spots in the overall standings!:clap:
http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/TTotal.pdf

[Bok]

I think I've just returned the last wu I've got that will finish before the end of the challenge. Got two more that I'll finish regardless but they'll be late..

[mattozan]

I think I've just returned the last wu I've got that will finish before the end of the challenge. Got two more that I'll finish regardless but they'll be late..

I've put up the "No new work" sign, and I think I'll get a few more done just under the deadline.

[Chuck]

same here... 5 more before the deadline. Have 4615 credits in pending for when the validator gets all caught up. I've finished all those that will finish. When do I switch back (change prefs) and continue previous work?

[mattozan]

same here... 5 more before the deadline. Have 4615 credits in pending for when the validator gets all caught up. I've finished all those that will finish. When do I switch back (change prefs) and continue previous work?

I use Boincstats BAM, so I just changed my Primegrid prefs to CW Sieve in preparation for the next challenge. When my clients refresh, they'll continue with any TRP LLR WUs that they have, but starting picking up new CW Sieve WUs going forward.

[Bok]

Mattozan, In case you missed it I moved your last post to the Lounge :)

[enderak]

Geez, I should pay more attention - I didn't even know we were participating in the Challenge series this year...

I've been directing all my recent efforts towards the Dual Sierpinski double-check in the Project Staging Area. Now that the challenge is over, if anyone wants to join me and earn some PSA credit I wouldn't mind the company :) (Team name is "FreeDC" because I forgot the dash)

[Bigred]

So we ended up 15th out of 208 teams. :thumbs:
I think this was a very good result considering how few of us there were.:clap:
Our success we owe in a large part to the monster collection of Laurenu2 who wound up in 21st place overall.
:allhail:




I use Boincstats BAM, so I just changed my Primegrid prefs to CW Sieve in preparation for the next challenge. When my clients refresh, they'll continue with any TRP LLR WUs that they have, but starting picking up new CW Sieve WUs going forward.

The next challenge starts 21 June. Just for the record it is best crunched with an Nvidia GPU. Sorry Lauren, no ATI applications for this one.:cry: CPUs will work though.

In the mean time, if you are looking for the best credit:
Nvidia GPU - Primegrid
ATI GPU - Moo Wrapper (just changed to static credit so this may change)
CPU - DNA@Home (when you can get work)

[Chuck]

Enderak,

Regarding the name, can't you turn that over to Bok and let Bok change/correct it as should be ?

Bok: Your call on this one as you are our leader

C.

[Bok]

Nah, I'm fine with what Enderak has done. This is 'Free'-DC remember, it's everyone's team :)

[LAURENU2]

So we ended up 15th out of 208 teams. :thumbs:

The next challenge starts 21 June. Just for the record it is best crunched with an Nvidia GPU. Sorry Lauren, no ATI applications for this one.:cry: CPUs will work though.


Thats OK it will be to hot around here about then anyway

[LAURENU2]

Nah, I'm fine with what Enderak has done. This is 'Free'-DC remember, it's everyone's team :)

MMM How does that work ? :idea: Like Timeshares in a condo:punpolice:

[enderak]

It's not for a competition or anything, and the credit shows up fine in my stats. The only issue would be if someone else started crunching it and put "Free-DC" as the team name, the credit would be divided in the stats shown at http://pgllr.mine.nu:13000/all.html Since the PSA credit is applied manually by Primegrid username, it translates just fine to the Free-DC stats.

[Chuck]

Request explanation please......

Weren't the rules of the challenge to complete / report completed WUs before the deadline?

If so, for those WUs which did not get completed (aka quorum min satisfied) and are still running, do THOSE computers which are doing cleanup / late in reporting get credit toward the final score?

I have this example: http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=182317723 and can show others. I reported BEFORE the deadline.

Please advise.

Tnx,
C.

[Bigred]

Request explanation please......

Weren't the rules of the challenge to complete / report completed WUs before the deadline?

If so, for those WUs which did not get completed (aka quorum min satisfied) and are still running, do THOSE computers which are doing cleanup / late in reporting get credit toward the final score?

I have this example: http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=182317723 and can show others. I reported BEFORE the deadline.

Please advise.

Tnx,
C.

Chuck,
the rules are quite simple. If you downloaded a WU after the start and reported it before the deadline you will get credit toward the challenge. If during the cleanup process I download the same WU to complete the quorum then I will not get credit for it toward the challenge but you will. This is why the cleanup takes so long. A lot of people see that they have WUs that won't finish before the deadline and abort them. Therefore they have to be resent to people that are willing to finish them after the challenge.

[Chuck]

Bigred,

Thanks very much,, that's what I thought, but was confused when I saw a number of 'pending' WUs had been sent out again to another user. It was my hope that I alone would get the credit for having complied with the rules.

Thanks,
C.

[Bigred]

Only 10 days till the next challenge. This one will be using Cullen/Woodall (Sieve) and it only runs for 24 hours. It runs on CPUs and Nvidia GPUs.:guntotin:

PCZ here is your chance to make a big splash again if you can stand the heat.:firedevil:

[mattozan]

I'm bringing my 2x GTX460 rig out of the closet especially for this. And I'll have some CPU on it as well.

[Bigred]

The next challenge starts in less that 2 days. From 20 Jun 17:16 UTC to 21 Jun 17:16 UTC.:Pokes:

Lauren:Pokes::Pokes::Pokes:

[mattozan]

I've got my GPU rig dusted off and chugging. It kept crashing and not POSTing last night, so I'm not sure how stable it is. Fingers crossed. If it goes down while I'm at work here, it's down for half the challenge...

I've also got some CPUs on it, but the projected times are 7-10 hours, as opposed to about 5 minutes for the GPU tasks. Are these work units worth different amounts?

Answered my own question. Both are worth 364.43 each, whether they take 250 seconds (my GPU) or 10,350 seconds (my CPU)!

[Bigred]

Pretty sad that only three of us are doing the challenge.:(
Still we've got the team in 25th place.:rock:
Thanks for the help Mattozan and Chuck.:thumbs:

Only a little over 8 hours to go.:bonk:

[Bok]

My 460 is down as I had to pull it out of the box that I used for the temp webserver, sorry guys, just didn't get my act together for this one at all. A LOT of things going in my life.

The good.

15 year wedding anniversary today :)

The bad.

My wife works for RBC Bank as a business analyst, their US operation was sold to PNC Bank for $3.45billion yesterday, no idea what it means as of right now.. I hate uncertainty :(

[Bigred]

The good.

15 year wedding anniversary today :)

The bad.

My wife works for RBC Bank as a business analyst, their US operation was sold to PNC Bank for $3.45billion yesterday, no idea what it means as of right now.. I hate uncertainty :(

Congratz on making it longer than most. You must have picked a good one. Happy anniversary.
http://bestsmileys.com/kissing2/9.gif

As for the job, maybe everything will work out for the best.
Just don't feel like this.
http://bestsmileys.com/anxious/3.gif

[Bigred]

The challenge is over and the team finished in 25th.:clap:

[Bigred]

Looks like about 3 days to pass PCZ for 1st place. :beep:

[Bigred]

http://bestsmileys.com/flaming/1.gif


Chuck here are a couple of pictures that should make your mouth water.

1332

Now where is that app?

[Chuck]

Ok, so we wish to play with :firedevil: ??? I will warn you in advance not to stand down-wind of me after Ripchen !!!!!!!

FYI, the first part of the app is working. I've got it at 128 bit precision even on an AMD. The only piece I have to decide/determine is where to slice the FPDP to Fixed Point. Once done, if successful on both platforms will give us the speed AND PRECISION we need for all. At that point, I will ask the 'Heavy Guns' to give it a solid test drive to make sure there are no false positives/ fatal round-off errors. We've done it before, but I have to use a new implementation and cannot simply use the one I know. So it's time for a little 'magic' to make it different enough to be GPL-able.

How long have we been waiting for such an app anyway?

[LAURENU2]

How long have we been waiting for such an app anyway?
I do not know but that is a good Question :idea: I will pass that one on to the people that would Know

[Chuck]

Lauren,
If you wish to ask, please do... I've got the core routines in Integer / Fixed point form now... only question is WHERE to slice it for safe Fixed Point representation to a normally Floating Point / Complex FFT problem.

Please have anyone / them / you email me directly. ALL input welcome, especially from the 'masters'.

Do you agree that having reliable 128 bit math base in integer / fixed point is of benefit even without the use of SSE / SIMD ?

[Bigred]

Ok, so we wish to play with :firedevil: ??? I will warn you in advance not to stand down-wind of me after Ripchen !!!!!!!


It is not the Ripchen that makes you do that. It is the sauerkraut that is traditionaly served with it.http://bestsmileys.com/rude/20.gif

[Chuck]

Oh, I agree totally, but if you take Rippchen and soak it properly in the saurkraut as is done very often, the two are a 'potent' combination. We also agree on that ?

[Bigred]

The next challenge starts on 26 August. It is for PPS LLR which means it is CPU only. Anybody going to help?

[LAURENU2]

I guess I can help
Go Team Go

[Bok]

I think I'm home that week so I'll do some..

[mattozan]

Yep, I'll pile on it.

[LAURENU2]

The next challenge starts on 26 August. It is for PPS LLR which means it is CPU only. Anybody going to help?
Does anybody know the start time for Chicago?

[Chuck]

EDT is GMT/UTC - 4 (summer time), EST is GMT/UTC - 5 (winter time)
CDT is GMT/UTC - 5 (summer time), CST is GMT/UTC - 6 (winter time)

All other adjust accordingly. Example... .In Summer, GMT 'midnight' occurs at Chicago 7:00pm.

That help everyone?


C.

[Bigred]

EDT is GMT/UTC - 4 (summer time), EST is GMT/UTC - 5 (winter time)
CDT is GMT/UTC - 5 (summer time), CST is GMT/UTC - 6 (winter time)

All other adjust accordingly. Example... .In Summer, GMT 'midnight' occurs at Chicago 7:00pm.

That help everyone?


C.

Chuck that is way too complicated for Lauren. It would actualy require him to do some math.:umm:

Keep it simple. Chicago is on CDT and the challenge starts at 1800 UTC. That would be 1800 minus 5 hours which would make it 1300 CDT. Just to make it really simple, Lauren start them right after lunch.:rotfl:

[LAURENU2]

Thanks Guys :thumbs:

[Chuck]

Ok guys,
I'm in, ready to give it the best I got. one machine is not yet cooling well so I reduced its max speed a bit. My oldest machine, @ 2.4 Ghz, it's taking me a little over 3 minutes / WU averge on DDR2 (that's on the old twin core machine). The others are DDR3 and doing MUCH better.

Lauren, glad you are all set with the start time? Everyone else set with their start time?

Now, one question.. Is there a BOINCView or equivalent app / config for the Linux side of the house ? I would like to only run the boinc client and manage it all from a central machine/location but never run it from one location in Linux. my client start script is set to allow remote gui rpc and the port is selected. I DO need to get the hosts' default passwords so I don't muck up the local boinc manager.


PS: Team members are welcome to use the automation script for core auto-assignment and priority/resource management (priority is a duplication of the boinc feature but overrides boinc) and auto-updates to the server on a regular basis (all configurable) for linux-based hosts.

Tnx,
C

[LAURENU2]

The next challenge starts on 26 August. It is for PPS LLR which means it is CPU only. Anybody going to help?

:idea:I forgot to ask how long does this challenge run?

[Bok]

2 days. Hopefully I'll not lose power with the impending hurricane...

[Chuck]

Same here. We could also lose it, but some time after you do. I will keep eyes open on your location and decide whether to 'run for da hills' or not based on what you get. Most likely, we will just lose a few telephone poles (power, dsl, cable, etc...... you know, nothing major.... LOL).

Hope you fair well through the storm. I have family out on the Cape and more right in V.B. We're all hoping for a more 'easterly route'

Take care of yourself & fam.





C.

[mattozan]

Strange that there's no forum thread for this challenge, like there has been in the past? I assume it is still on? I'm starting 14 cores on PPS LLR, assuming that it is.

Edit: Sorry, there is a thread (http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=3556#39325), it just wasn't linked from the Challenges Page.

[Chuck]

Got a break from meetings, I'm up and running on all cores.... How many folk are in?

Mattozan, yep you got it right.....


let's sock it to them FDC !

[Bigred]

I cranked up what I could but it is still too hot for me to run everything.:firedevil:
An hour and a half into the challenge and we're at 26.:clap:
The servers seem to be taking a beating though.:bonk:

[Bok]

I've got the 2600k on it right now, the amd's don't do too well I don't think. Just starting to get a little rain and wind is picking up a little.. I need to clean up all the deck area and tie everything down :)

[Bigred]

I've got the 2600k on it right now, the amd's don't do too well I don't think. Just starting to get a little rain and wind is picking up a little.. I need to clean up all the deck area and tie everything down :)

Keep your head down and stay safe.

[Bigred]

:idea:I forgot to ask how long does this challenge run?

Hey Lauren. Lunchtime is over.:eat:

[LAURENU2]

Hey Lauren. Lunchtime is over.:eat:
:umm:I came home and turned them on about 2:00 pm
Then I went back to work. Later when I came back I saw the nodes had no work
:thumbs:Found out I was working a Old project :hair:
updated my account and all my nodes, all is working now:thumbs:

You know me I am stupid on details and I am a slow starter:geezer: but I get up to speed fast:beep:

[Bok]

Seems to have run out of wu's ??

[Chuck]

I believe the 'Dogs' have gotten to the PG server which sits idle with no more 'resend WU' allowed (based on its config) as the '_0' was also recrunched as a '_1' which stops it from going any further. So the 'Dog Days of Summer' have gone to the 'dogs' ? The transitioner, validator, and a whole bunch of other BOINC internal services are turned off due to earlier load. Is this not a repeat of one a few years ago? Perhaps a reschedule is due? Anyone's thoughts?


Update: PG claims to be back on with fresh WUs, but I still get _1 WUs sent to me. Is a 'reschedule' due in light of the huge problems which occurred and was out of their control in any way?

[LAURENU2]

Seems to have run out of wu's ??
Ya they sent them all to me :bang: I Must have a buffer of 1500 hr's of WU's
All my nodes are set to buffer 0.50 days



2 days. Hopefully I'll not lose power with the impending hurricane...

If this is so a lot of my WU's will not count in if they are clocked in at 2 to 3 day to run

WoW I made a total of 7 points for 96 2.5 ghz cores running for 24 hr's

[Bok]

Validation is usually switched off, so don't look at that as the scores for the challenge. They are counted separate...

[Chuck]

if off, then how did they end up in the 'pending' queue ???? i know full validation is off, but basic is on, otherwise boinc could be cheated during one of these

[Bok]

I'm not aware of any basic versus full validation. Pending is a standard boinc function where a wu goes into prior to validation. What they do at primegrid for challenges is separate from their validaion. As long as they don't go into error (which is client side) they get counted for the challenge. So you need to look at the challenge (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_6/top_users.html) scores rather than the main scores to see what you have. Though they seem to be broken too at the moment!

[Bigred]

Well it's over. It was a pretty disappointing challenge without the stats. It could be a while before we even know how we did.:dunno:

[LAURENU2]

Well it's over. It was a pretty disappointing challenge without the stats. It could be a while before we even know how we did.:dunno:

Ya Me Too :mad:
I can not figure out why they gave out WU's in a 2 day challenge that run for 80+ hrs:brainfart:
ALL my nodes are still working on the first WU's I got Friday
And I suspended about 12.000 hrs of WU's not started
I only have 0.50 set for a work buffer

[Chuck]

I'm completely disappointed. This should be rescheduled and done again. They had internal problems (which we know happen from time to time) that completely invalidated the science portion. Resending WUs already crunched or WUs from other sub-projects also was not cool, nor was losing WUs and having me 'recrunch' them was not good. I requested, on their board, given the problems which were beyond their control or ability to correct that staff, admins, and management consider a complete 'resched' from lessons learned.
Now, to get back to normal would be nice. It's going to take me a few days to recover and that means a HUGE loss of productivity.

I would consider this one very much a :train: wreck.


C.

[Chuck]

I don't know what the final stats will show, but given the WU outage, I'm 'ok' with it. It could have been better and we all should raise a :cheers: to Lennart who managed to keep it going in spite of the problems!!!



In the interest of science, I would love to see it rescheduled when the :mouserun: and :taz: are out of the boxen.

Still, of the 5 I see in the current stats... I just missed getting in under the '500' mark. 'snot to bad, eh?

C.

[Bigred]

Looks like overall we took 30th place. Not too bad considering there were only 5 of us.:clap:


The next one starts on 23 Sept and runs for 13 days. Maybe we'll get a little more help then.:Pokes:

[Bigred]

Anybody going to help out with the next challenge that starts Friday and runs for 13 days?:Pokes:
It uses the Woodall (WOO) LLR application and the WUs are monsters. At least thirty hours to complete.:hair:

[Chuck]

Red,
I have a good LLR machine on Linux to run it..... Please pm/email me if you have any specific instructions about settings. In anticipation, I will start clearing out the queue.

C.

[Bok]

I'll run it on the Intel 2600K, given it's not that great on AMD's

[Bigred]

Well, the fun starts tomorrow.:bouncy:

Looks like it is just the three of us against the world.:Pokes:

[mattozan]

I've got 16 cores chugging on it. The slowest of them will only complete one WU every 9 days. The fastest claims it will take 70 hrs per WU. We'll see.

[Bigred]

I've got 16 cores chugging on it. The slowest of them will only complete one WU every 9 days. The fastest claims it will take 70 hrs per WU. We'll see.

:thumbs:

I put my 8 quads on it. We'll see what happens.:eat:

Laurenu2 where are you?:guntotin:

[mattozan]

This one's really a "set it and forget it" challenge. There won't even be any stats to see until tomorrow. I keep checking BOINC out of habit, but it's just "2 hours out of 100 elapsed..." Right. I guess I should get back to work. A watched pot never boils!

[Chuck]

Have 9 up and running..... avg complete cpu time 41 hrs estimated. Will update when first WU reports

[Bigred]

Six of us on the board with Bok in the lead at #113.:eat:

Team is at #23.:cheers:

[mattozan]

I flushed some completed WUs and jumped up to #92. But now it will be at least a couple more days before I produce anythings else... A big factor in this challenge will be how many WUs you can finish on the last day...

[Chuck]

Gang,
Lost LLR machine.... new LLR machine here in 2 days.... hope a Core i7 @ 3.4 will do the job & help catch back up. Sorry for failure, as accident.
Currently running using backup machine (much slower)

[uBronan]

lol my old x3 720 (3.2 Ghz) 40+ hours on a unit and beats my quad 6600 (3.2 Ghz)with ease with 55+ hours
Funny is that most units start with a estimate of 70+ hours on the amd but end much faster
While the q6600 estimates at start 50+ hours and ends more near the 60 hours

[Chuck]

gang,
ordered 2920qm w/ 8G (quad channel mem ddr3) + gt 580 + hd3000 dual gpus .. i7 @3.4G -> 3.9G Turbo... sony L series.

amd chips good for cpu sieve (22 hr for pps). c2d v2 2.4ghz in 24 hrs, c2d did llr in 48hr woodall. L has 2tib hd + 24" 1920x1080p + xfer of 2x500GB hd from old laptop. gpu will help nice w/sieve + help team

cuda compliant w/ 1G ram + tuner /capture + tons of new stuff.

linux faster than w7 pro 64 .. ready to setup & xfer s/w when it gets here tomorrow

am sick w/ bad flu.

for laughs look in os discussion and see graphic/cartoon i posted about how we probably feel about our machines sometimes.

graphic name is BB-3.jpg

talk to you all in a few days

C

[Bigred]

The challenge is halfway done.:hiya:
We're still at #23.:thumbs:
Bok is still in the lead.:guntotin:
There are 9 of us on the board.:clap:

[uBronan]

You guys have too much machines, and too powerfull ones ;)
Poor little me can't keep up, and suddenly not getting new woodall units on one machine.
I have to look into it why it does not get me some, setting it to 10 days work cache did not solve it.
And i allready killed the boinc debts as well, but the most weird is that it only happens on primegrid all other projects just do function normal

[uBronan]

lol such weirdness suddenly got for 10 more days work, i forgot to set it back to 2 days work
Has any of you a clue why i do not see points awarded for the challenge while i finished some more units.
My rank keeps dropping for several days, even though minimal 4 or 5 units got finsihed and validated
On the boinc credits all seem fine and added normally

[Bok]

I thought it would be the other way around. They often switch off the validator whilst running the challenges, so you get points for the challenge, but the BOINC points come later..

[uBronan]

Well yes thats what i was reading but even though i got enough units finished i only saw myself drop on the ranks even though i was in front of you at the begin.
Since that day it went from 193 downwards to 260+ non of the newly finished units has been added to the challenge while the boinc points keep coming in.
Yesterday for instance i got another 3 units rewarded but nothing added again on the challenge.
Ofcourse i know not to be a fast cruncher but when units got finished you expect to see change :D
Within 3 hours another freaking long unit will end after about 70 hours on the q6600.

[mattozan]

I've got three WUs that should finish in a couple more hours, and eight more that should finish in a couple more days. Then that'll be it for me. All the rest won't meet the contest deadline.

Here in California our first storm of the season is moving in, bringing the first rain we've seen since June. As the temperature drops I might bring my GPU rig back out of the closet. I definitely will do for the Winter Solstice PPS Sieve Challenge, at the very least.

[Bok]

I've got 10 more wu's that will finish within the challenge time, to date all the points I have so far are from the single core i7 2600@4Ghz.. not bad at all :)

[Bigred]

I've got 10 more wu's that will finish within the challenge time, to date all the points I have so far are from the single core i7 2600@4Ghz.. not bad at all :)

Makes my eight quads look a little dated.:notworthy

[mattozan]

I've got 10 more wu's that will finish within the challenge time, to date all the points I have so far are from the single core i7 2600@4Ghz.. not bad at all :)

I've just got one more in me. Timing wasn't on my side in this one.

[mattozan]

I'm going to join enderak over at Five or Bust Double Check after this challenge: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=3628&nowrap=true#40678

[mattozan]

Looks like we'll hold #22 overall? I think Dutch Power Cows and Aggie The Pew pass us, but we pass Picard and Team China?

Nice push at the line to beat L'Alliance Francophone & Crunching Family! :thumbs:

[Bigred]

I've still got several that are pending so things may change. Bok almost beat me with a single machine. Looks like it is time to think about some upgrades.

[outlnder]

Okie dokie, there is another Challenge this month. It starts Nov. 11th at 1800 UTC, that's 10am PST. It runs for 5 days to the 23rd at 1800 UTC.

I will have my quad core laptop on it for the whole challenge. Hopefully, we can finish higher than 20th.

[mattozan]

I've got my machines going on the Leonids Challenge (http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=3744). Just turned in the first eight WUs--they're taking about 24-27 hrs each on my hardware.

[mattozan]

Final challenge is less than two weeks away: Winter Solstice Challenge (PPS Sieve) (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/challenge.php) Starts December 19 @ 0530 UTC.

I just discovered BOINCpe (http://blog.schreiter.info/boincpe-livecd-for-boinc/), and I'm going to use it to add some firepower to the last challenge of the year--I'm going to try to get into the top 100 again. :machgun:

nVidia and ATI crunchers, dust off your cards and get ready to rumble! This is the Big One! :elephant:

Who else is in? :eat:

[LAURENU2]

How long does it run

[mattozan]

How long does it run

72 hours.

This one's nice for North American time zones. 0530 UTC is 9:30 PM in California for me. Kick 'em off before going to bed and let it ride!

[Bigred]

72 hours.

This one's nice for North American time zones. 0530 UTC is 9:30 PM in California for me. Kick 'em off before going to bed and let it ride!

I'm in with both Nvidia and ATI cards although my GTX460 fried a pair of fans and is out for replacement.:guntotin:

Here is the way I'm going to do it. Boinc 6.12.34 runs backup projects correctly. I'll set PG for only PPS Seive and a resource share of 0. I'll shutdown my other GPU projects ahead of time and then Boinc will only download one WU at a time. That way I won't have a lot of work to finish before getting the challenge WUs.:eat:

Lauren, you better run some test WUs ahead of time to make sure your ATIs are setup correctly.:hair:

[Bigred]

Only about 9 hours left until the start. :bigtrain:
Hopefully we'll break into the top 20.:guntotin:

[LAURENU2]

so it starts 12 am here my time?

[Bigred]

It looks like it is just three of us against the world.:bonk:

The team is currently in 37th place.:guntotin:

[LAURENU2]

I count 9 on our team against the world. :thumbs:
And you Know I'm a slow starter :geezer:

[Bigred]

I count 9 on our team against the world. :thumbs:
And you Know I'm a slow starter :geezer:

There are 9 people doing Primegrid but if you look here (http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2011_9/top_users.html) you will see that there are only three of us doing the challenge.:hair:
Team is currently at #35.:guntotin:
Slow starter or not, all help benefits the team.:thumbs:

[LAURENU2]

I have 9 ati's working this
Do you think my output is Low for that ?

I see Bok joined in:thumbs:

[Bigred]

I have 9 ati's working this
Do you think my output is Low for that ?

I see Bok joined in:thumbs:

First of all the credit given here has been just about cut in half. I have all my GPUs running this and a year ago I would have been making 2 mil a day.

The second thing is that even though ATI cards will run this, they are not very efficient at it. I don't know if it's the cards but I suspect it is the application. As an example on a HD4850 a WU takes about 2.5 hours. On a GTX460 it only takes 35 minutes.

Team is at 37 with only about 8 hours to go.