Free-4-All Gauntlet Time!

[IronBits]

Hear Ye! Hear Ye! Hear Ye!

Ars and [H]OCP are sponsoring a 'Free-4-All' gauntlet that runs from
May 1st 2003 0:55 PST to May 29th 2003 21:55 PST
This is NOT a Team vs. Team gauntlet! You do not have to join their teams to participate.
Gauntlet STATS http://marcc.no-ip.org/ter/calavaro_challenge.php
Updated at: 1:30 4:30 7:30 10:30 PST !

Looks like we're going to get out of the starting blocks quickly! :D
Team Free-DC (aka: Team #758) r0x0rs! :cheers:

The particpants from Free-DC.org are
Condor
Dyyryath
Beyond_
DarknessProductions
Angus
Magnav0x
and of course 'Ye ole Target Butt' IronBits
:thumbs:
Did I miss anyone? How about Supp ???
Post here if you want to join the :|party|:
/me heads off to stock up the virtual fridge :)

[IronBits]

Anyone is free to join the gauntlet at any time before it ends.
If You join after May 1st, a baseline will be take at the first update after the post in which you join.
Splitting the Gauntlet into weeks gives even 11th hour gauntleteers an interesting challenge.

[IronBits]

Memership stands at
14 [H]
10 Ars
07 Free-DC
Who's gonna cover that monster MidnightFreak[H] ? :scared:

[Beyond]

I don't know about [H], but (7) Free-DC'ers are worth more than 10 Arsians anyday of the week. :crazy:

[PY 222]

Originally posted by Beyond
I don't know about [H], but (7) Free-DC'ers are worth more than 10 Arsians anyday of the week. :crazy:

Now that is a quote that we can take to the Ars DCA!

You tell them Beyond. :jester: :thumbs:

[IronBits]

Originally posted by Beyond
I don't know about [H], but (7) Free-DC'ers are worth more than 10 Arsians anyday of the week. :crazy: :rotfl:
:cheers:

[IronBits]

Condor is in the top 100!! :notworthy
:cheers: Cheers mate :|party|:

[magnav0x]

Don't worry guys! The rear is secure! :rotfl:

I'm still thinking my machines aren't running at par, because they are all taking over 24 hours and in some cases 60 hours to complete a WU. I did however watch one of the Cellies complete a WU about 5 hours ago, but isn't in the stats yet? Maybe it's MIA?! We should send a scout group out for it. :help:

[IronBits]

P2-350 on it's way ! YGM :D

[magnav0x]

Oh yeah and that 68 hour WU is on the AMD Athalon clocked to 1.6ghz with 512mb DDR ram. Is it the WU or the machine?!


***EDIT***


magnav0x has contributed work units with more than one different team number. The contributions are listed below.

ruro!

[Paratima]

Aw, well, I swore I wasn't gonna have any more of this, but, (sigh)... :rolleyes:

Sure, IB, sign me up for a nickel's worth.

(That's two scoops, right?)

[IronBits]

w00t! :|party|: :|party|:
:cheers: :cheers: ;) better than scoops any day :)

[IronBits]

Originally posted by magnav0x
ruro! DOH! :bang:

[IronBits]

Originally posted by magnav0x
Oh yeah and that 68 hour WU is on the AMD Athalon clocked to 1.6ghz with 512mb DDR ram. Is it the WU or the machine?!
I wouldn't think it takes that long... mine don't at the same clock speed. What protein? using -advmethods with that one?

[Cmarc]

figured I might as well post this here.
dp's accounts are merged and Paratima is in. Next update will be his first.
Cheers,
Marc

[Paratima]

Tanks! :p

[magnav0x]

IB, I'm not exactly sure what's the deal with the Athalon XP. As long as I baby sit and restart the client every few hours it'll run normal, if I let it sit any longer F@H slows to a crawl and takes twice as long to complete:smoking: Guess I'll be full time babysitter this May :D

Also I never could figure out how one of my WU's got submitted without a team affiliation. I triple checked the 4 F@H machines and they were all fine.

[Darkness Productions]

Numbers after day 1

[IronBits]

when in doubt, fah3console -config -advmethods -local :D

[pointwood]

Here is something from the Hardforum for you ;)

Majic:
ok the whole point was to call out someone!

ok im calling someone out

Zippy101

and

Dyyryath

we all seem to have the same production. this is all i got so you now know what you need to take me. the question is can you? Zippy101 you seem to be holding me off so far. Dyyryath has seemed to slowed or stopped production. I hope you are still out there. And hey if you both stomp me cool but dont think i will just roll over and die. lol
enjoy and gl!

And then just a few moments ago on #distributed on irc.arstechnica.com:

<Calavaro> he's a big slacker.. (in F@H3)
<Calavaro> :p
* Calavaro hopes this will be repeated to Dyy :p ;)

[Supp]

Me wants to be in gaunlet too!! :)

[Angus]

Welcome to the party, Supp !!

Have one of IB's virtual :cheers:

[Supp]

Thank ya! Sure I'll.

[Darkness Productions]

Hell, if all he's done is 23 so far, I wanna challenge him too!


Originally posted by pointwood
Here is something from the Hardforum for you ;)


And then just a few moments ago on #distributed on irc.arstechnica.com:
;)

[magnav0x]

ARG DP! I took the 18th spot on the team 3 hours before you! Give it back! I'm going to tell IB that you cut me in line! :spank:

[IronBits]

We are l:D:Dking good boys :smoking:
Keep turnin up the heat!
:thumbs:

[Angus]

Ohhhhh I'm sooooooo excited!


I've turned LILAC :thumbs:


w00t :shocked: FDC in 3 of the top 4 daily rates! :crazy:

[IronBits]

:cheers:
3 days and 2nd update into the 1st week of the gauntlet
/me sneaks past [H] pageian to take 4th place. :D
Condor is bearing down on MidnightFreak[H] :scared:
And, we are in 76th place overall :thumbs:

[Beyond]

1 Condor 52525.4 2711
2 IronBits 7911.87 2104
3 JTrinkle 6297.57 4843
4 dizzy 4946.67 593
5 JustinFields 3241.52 1565
6 Angus 2551.99 85
7 Beyond_ 2493.87 72
8 Dyyryath 2169.34 1994


:notworthy Angus :notworthy

[IronBits]

/me :Pokes: Beyond
Get him!!! ;)
:cheers:

[Beyond]

Pedaling as fast as I can now....need more speed, need more speed.........arrgh http://24.174.34.241:8080/images/bigun2.gif

[magnav0x]

4656 5 JustinFields 3241.52 1565 758
6538 6 Beyond_ 2474.17 71 758
6599 7 Angus 2452.99 82 758
7739 8 Dyyryath 2169.34 1994 758
10773 9 outlnder 1683.4 1113 758


Looks like Beyond reclaimed his posistion :smoking:

[Angus]

When was the last time Dyyryath was in LAST PLACE in a gauntlet???

Wake up man - :Pokes: help steamroller your friendly local Arsians and [H]ordes

[Angus]

Condor has charged into the lead in the gauntlet. :cheers:

MidnightFreak[H] in 2nd place is wavering, soon to be overrun by srage2k2 and our own IronBits. :bonk:

IronBits may need to watch his (targeted) rear for an attack from pageian [H].

Angus has worked through many of the [H]orde, and is now focused on whilden (ars) for 6th place , while also achieving ORANGE-ness


All great fun :bouncy:


Beyond is not having fun, with client issues. Hope that gets resolved soon!!


DarknessProductions, magnavox, Supp, and Paratima are toiling away further down the charts, after some slow starts. Let's pick a target, guys, and go for it!


And , Dyyryath still holding up the rear. :trash:

[IronBits]

Fantastic update! Hope to see more of them in the future :smoking:
Congrats on your ORANGE-ness :cheers:

[Paratima]

IronBits: Don't want to put a damper on anyone else's fun, but I've got to bail! This client takes a fairly gutsy machine to make any difference, and I've only got a couple available right now. Just two boxen on F@H is like watching paint dry! Plus, I'm committed to beta-testing on a couple of other projects, and, well, I'm outa machines! :blush:

(LOVE the new smilies!)
Catch ya next go-round. :walking:

[IronBits]

No problem pal, I understand. This is a tougher client than I thought it would be.
After all, they have been working on it for like 3 years, and they still don't have it right. :spank:
So far, I've been pretty lucky compared to others. :thumbs:
I'll slug it out until I get bored, or until DFbeta goes live I guess. :cheers:
Besides, I can keep Condor company :kiss: and give Angus something to look at. :moon: :jester:
What else could a guy ask for eh? :looney:

[Paratima]

Hahahaha! You are certifiable! :looney:

Did I mention I LOVE the new smilies? :bouncy: (Thanks, Moogie! :kiss: )

[Richard Clyne]

Better late than never :)

Count me in. Could never resist a Gauntlet.

[IronBits]

Right on Richard! :thumbs:
We can always use another oar :D

[Angus]

:bouncy: :elephant: :bouncy: :elephant: :bouncy:
:elephant: :bouncy: :elephant: :bouncy: :elephant:


Finally!!!


REDNESS



:neener: :fireboun: :neener: :fireboun: :neener:

[IronBits]

Good work Angus! :smoking:

[IronBits]

We are in 67th place! :cheers:
Go Free-DC Go!!! :fireboun:

[Cmarc]

nice going FDC!
Cheers,
Marc

PS: I don't think I commented on it earlier but that's a mighty fetching av IB :scared: :looney:

[IronBits]

hehehe, Cmarc, see what happens when ya let a women dress you in the morning? /me looks over at Moogie
Where is Condor?
Just when Angus and I get up to speed to :(
We are kicking it HARDer than [H] almost ;)

[Angus]

Is this better, Master? :notworthy

[IronBits]

Oh so splendid!!! :thumbs:
Angus, you is :fireboun:
:cheers:

[IronBits]

Go man go! Looking good over there! :smoking:

[IronBits]

Last run: Sat May 10 01:22:17 PDT 2003
:fireboun: :cheers:

[Angus]

From a post by Theseum on the Ars Team Egg Roll site:

:drums:

As of now, we are getting our asses handed to us by that damn splinter group as well as some [H]eavy Hitters so hurry up and find some ghz to throw on the pile!


:neener: :neener: :neener:


(who they talking about? splinter group? )

[IronBits]

I had TWO network outages today!!! :swear:
Was able to get one back up after 12 hours or more, thanks to my brothers heroic efforts! :thumbs:
Still have one down here, and I don't know why yet? :bang:
Will have to wait until I find out from www.DSLExtreme.com what they did to my main IP 66.51.209.61, which is not working !!! :bs:
All my computers behind the firewall, on that IP, are toast until tomorrow evening sometime...
:help: :cry:

[IronBits]

BOOYAAaaaaa!!! :fireboun:

[IronBits]

Good showing everyone!!! :D

[IronBits]

Well I'm sure the beasts have been riled over at [H] and Ars, so dig in boys, here they come! :Pokes:

[IronBits]

I will be terminating the Gauntlet at the end of Week 3.
:mouserun:

[IronBits]

Ok, only the top 5 in week 3 total

[IronBits]

Top 5 in overall gauntlet totals

[IronBits]

1 Ars, 2 FDC, 2 [H]OCP in the top 5 - good fun! :D
Hard client to run :(
We climbed way up the ladder in the overall official stats to!!!
All the way up to 53rd place! Not shabby at all :thumbs:
:smoking:
Great show of force by whilden from Ars! :notworthy
:cheers:
Here's the graph of everyone! It's bigger so will only provide linkage so we can see all the particpants!
www.dbestern.com/files/gauntletfahweek3.png

[IronBits]

Congratulations to Condor:kiss: :cheers: :|party|:
He was the clear winner on the Free-DC Team :thumbs: :elephant:

[Condor]

Heh, only because I had far fewer problems than most.

Ironbits and Angus had great runs also.
The important thing is that the team moved up about 30 places
during those four weeks. So congrats to all !!!

[Paratima]

Spoken like a winner! :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

[Supp]

Ya! :thumbs:

[rsbriggs]

Well, I'm not going to stand for us having dropped from 86th place to 88th place over the last couple of days. That is, if I can manage to do anything about it... :mad: Let's see what a couple of P4's running over the weekend can do for us here... :tramp:

[IronBits]

Good :thumbs: I put one xp2600 on it yesterday ;)
OGR to :)

[Condor]

Now that's the spirit.

:thumbs:

[IronBits]

And two more today :D :rotfl:

[IronBits]

Well, the one I had running on the mail server caused it to crash, so I moved it over to OGR instead.
So now it's three on OGR and 2 on FAH, for now...

[PCZ]

What WU's are being dished out ?

Any nice fast Gromacs ?

[IronBits]

You need to get the BETA 3.25 client (not really a beta, but fixes a bug so it will use SSE on AMD XP processors)
http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/beta/beta.html

Then use the following command line to FORCE it to use SSE
FAH3console.exe -advmethods -forceasm -local

Gromacs will be handed out IF you use the above command line.
You want to get EM to monitor the client(s) to :thumbs:
www.em-dc.com

Each 2 GHz should be good for at least 33 points per 24hrs.

Stats are here ;)
http://stats.zerothelement.com/cgi-bin/folding3/render-users.pl?team=758
here
http://marcc.no-ip.org/ter/userstatsfdc.php
or here, if it's not down temporarily for stats updating
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_members.php?TeamID=758

[PCZ]

IB
33 PPD from an Athlon XP 2400 is a bit low. If the current Gromacs are scoring that low then I think I will pass.

[rsbriggs]

Nice jump for me today +5326 clear up to, erm, uhhh, 90,681 th place. :eek:

[GHOST]

3.25 beta (unmarked)
--------------------
- If -forceasm is used, then on every execution of the core until the
client is restarted, SSE optimizations will be used if possible (if
the chip is an AMD chip, then be default, without the flag, it would
not be chosen over 3DNow). Prior to this client, this effect would have
held true only for the first work unit run after starting the client.


:help:
What is the difference between sse and 3dnow? Only one can be used at a time?
And how exactly do I put in this flag?

I saw this,
Then use the following command line to FORCE it to use SSE
FAH3console.exe -advmethods -forceasm -local

but I am missing something, not doing something right.

I started this beta and it is using 3dnow. Can it be edited after it has started?

Thanks.

[IronBits]

Yes! Stop the client and run FAHconsole.exe -config
You need to re-configure it, say YES to change Advanced Options, choose FAH only etc.
I just ran it again for you to see what you need to put in there

My responses are in BOLD

FAHconsole -config

User name [IronBits]? IronBits <-- change to yours, or not ;)
Team Number[758]? 758
Ask before fetching/sending work [no] (yes/no)? no
Use Internet Explorer Settings [yes] (yes/no)? yes
Change advanced options [no] (yes/no)? yes
Client Type [fah] (no-pref/fah/gah)? fah
Core Priority [low] (idle/low)? low
CPU usage requested [100]? 100
Disable highly optimized assembly code [no] (no/yes)? no
Ignore deadline information (mainly useful if...) no
...system clock frequently has errors)? [no] (no/yes)? no
Machine ID (1-4) [1]? 1

Client takes off from here and shows...

[19:01:14] - Ask before connecting: No
[19:01:14] - Use IE connection settings: Yes
[19:01:14] - User name: IronBits (Team 758)
[19:01:14] - User ID = 4373E4977BF0A512 <--- This HAS to be different for each client
[19:01:14] - Machine ID: 1
[19:01:14]
[19:01:14] Work directory not found. Creating...
[19:01:14] Loaded queue successfully.
[19:01:14] + Benchmarking ...
The STOP the client and run it with
FAHconsole -advmethods -forceasm -local

[IronBits]

Originally posted by PCZ
IB
33 PPD from an Athlon XP 2400 is a bit low. If the current Gromacs are scoring that low then I think I will pass. I was guessing, FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF and let me know what you find out ;) :D

[PCZ]

Ghost
How did you start the program?
If you have a shortcut just add the flags to it.
right click on the shortcut and select properties.

If you are running the program in a command window just press control C
to stop it.
Restart using FAH3console -advmethods -forceasm
this will turn on SSE. If you are using version 3.25 it will stay using SSE when that protein is done. If you have version 3.24 it will revert back to 3dnow.

If you started the program without the flags you might have got a Tinker WU
they take ages to crunch and the points awarded are very low in comparision to the Gromacs.

The reason people use the advmethods flag is to increase the likelyhood of getting the more desirable Gromac WU's.
They were in Beta for a while and advmethods is the public beta test flag.

[GHOST]

Thank you IB, PCZ.
SSE is on.
I was using this-FAH3console.exe -advmethods -forceasm -local
I needed this-FAH3.25-Console-beta -advmethods -forceasm -local

Darn- I shut off the client before checking the times. But, with 3DNow, 34 out of 100 units completed in 10 hrs. about 17 min each. With sse a unit is taking 8.5 min.:thumbs:

[QUOTE]How did you start the program?
If you have a shortcut just add the flags to it.
right click on the shortcut and select properties.

Tried this but did not see how at first. Now I see. This is the main reason I'm here, to learn.

[IronBits]

Well it made my XP box crash, so I moved it over to SOB17 instead.

[PCZ]

Most people rename the 3.25 executable to FAH3console.exe. Sorry I forgot to mention that.

[Cmarc]

Main reason to rename the exe is to keep shortcuts and service installs (made with pks excellent installer (http://www.bluetentacle.co.uk/dc/fahservice.htm) ) working without undue fuss.
nice to see FDC starting to move again :)
Cheers,
Marc

[GHOST]

I have to reinstall windows every 30 days, did that today and put fah on two machines. I really had a problem last time with this beta and flags.Sometimes it would not configure from the console and I made sure my i's were dotted and t's crossed.

Anyway, I downloaded Firedaemon to run fah as service and put the flags in the parameter box and that is so simple!!

One machine is only folding. The second is my main computer, and it did crash a couple times right away. Lowered the fsb a couple points, that did not help. Changed priority from low to idle and cpu usage from 100% to 95%. Working now.

[FoBoT]

i have two home boxen on this, moving up steadily, but going from #11 to #10 will be a bit of a climb, easy going until then :elephant:

[IronBits]

Just TWO ? :Pokes: :D
(thread revival) :sleepy:
Client is now at 5.02 and I only use the -local switch.