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Nuri
09-19-2004, 06:02 PM
Who will be the first to score 100,000?

Well, this might be any of us. But, I'd vote for one of the P-1 guys.

A more tricky question is; "When will this happen?"

For that, one has to guess both PRP and sieve progress.

My humble guess is December 30th, 2004.

And, here's a quick cheat table that covers the possible n/p combinations in 50,000 n steps. The limits are; current n+200k at one hand (i.e. if PRP stops today), and current 90% sieve point on the other hand (i.e. if sieving stops today).


I'd be happy to hear your guesses.

Nuri
09-19-2004, 06:09 PM
Well, I guess it's obvious, but anyways. I mean, for a single factor.

royanee
09-20-2004, 02:04 AM
I think vjs has a pretty good chance with the 7.5m, 14.1 bias. It's just over 100k, and not too far away n wise. Plus, the bias is 10.6 right now. Not too too far away.

vjs
09-24-2004, 03:30 PM
Thanks for the vote of confidance royanee,

I know you can vote fore yourself in an election but I'm not sure of it in DC.

Truth of the matter is we will need a n>7.45m factor to enter the main active window, so n>7.25m in prp, to get a 100k score. By that time I would think the main sieve effort would be past or around 2^49 so it may just be luck of the draw.

I'm hoping but not optimistic,... yet.


:umm:

Nuri's table looks like it has some pretty good info but I'm not sure what it represents exactly, to score 100k? Not sure why the 90% sieve point is decreasing or I'd say it's projected 90% sieve?

royanee
09-24-2004, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by vjs
Nuri's table looks like it has some pretty good info but I'm not sure what it represents exactly, to score 100k? Not sure why the 90% sieve point is decreasing or I'd say it's projected 90% sieve?

Yeah, I didn't understand the table either. Nuri?

vjs
09-24-2004, 04:34 PM
Upon futher reflection,

584000-586000 Nuri
606000-608000 Nuri
628000-630000 Nuri

and


current n+200k at one hand (i.e. if PRP stops today), and current 90% sieve point on the other hand (i.e. if sieving stops today)

Looks like what it will take go get a 100K score...

Of course to get a 100K score the factor must enter the prp+200k window.

Good example is one of mine :D

563.834T 21181^7581644 will score 101280.964 with bias of 14.10,

However someone could beat me to 100k with a smaller n (b/c it would score first)and higher T, but they would have to fight the bias from a higher T which is related to the 90% sieve point, which is what nuri sis showing assuming the 90% sieve point stays constant at ~426 which is won't.

I think this is what he is gettting at.

So if this is the case I'd say someone will beat me to a 100K score unless I find a few more factors around 7.4m.

UPDATE:

:shocked:

752.772T 4847 7192527 121696.059 18.82

looks like its going to be nuri if I understand this correctly.

Keroberts1
09-24-2004, 05:03 PM
remenber once the 90
% sieve reaches 450 its going to jump intrantly up ot around 485. This is going to raise some scores because of the inreased bias. Some factors may go up as much as 5,000 points or more with this.

Nuri
09-24-2004, 05:57 PM
Sorry about the confusion regarding the table. I mistakenly wrote G instead of T. :blush:

You can read it like, n+200k / p 90% pairs that would lead to 100,000.

Let's assume we're currently 7,000,000 for the PRP effort. Then, the highest possible n within the active window would be 7,200,000. That is the first column. The first column increases in 50,000 n steps in the table. And the second column gives the lowest possible 90% sieve points that lead to a score of 100,000 for the n+200k value corresponding to it.

At the time I prepared the table, PRP effort was at around 6,950,000. Hence, the lowest theoretical limit for n would have been 7,150,000. Let's assume for a moment that PRP suddenly stopped at that date, but sieve continued. Then, the active window would cease to move upwards. But the factors which have a p larger than 90% sieve point and that are within the active window range would see their points increase. I know, this scenario is highly unlikely, but as I said, it's the theoretical limit.

The lowest row of the table corresponds to the other end, i.e. if for some reason sieving stoped suddenly, but PRP continued. And the rows in between are the scenarios corresponing to various degrees of relative progress at PRP and sieve.

Currenly we have 7,179,272 as our n+200k, and 428.859T as our 90% sieve point. So, theoretically, speaking, the highest possible score that someone can get from a factor is 69075.7113 [=(7.179272^2)*125*(428.859/40)] at this moment. If, let's say, PRP suddenly stopped, then, we would have to wait until 90% sieve point reaches at least 620.85T to see a score of 100,000 for a single factor.


Let's say, you are looking at 8,000,000 / 500T pair from the table. If you say we'll reach 100,000 score when n+200k and 90% p reaches those numbers, then you are implicitly saying that, n will move upward by 1,020,718 (=8,000,000-6,979,272), and 90% sieve point will move by 71.141T (500-428.859) from now until that time comes. Is this scenario likely? Again, not very much. 90% sieving point will probably reach 500T within 40 days or so, roughly around the end of October. At that time, PRP would probably be at around 7,250,000, way below 8,000,000.



Ok, too many bla bla bla.... :D


How to calculate the date when a score reaches 100,000?

Here's my method:

Currently we have 7,179,272 as our n+200k, and 428.859T as our 90% sieve point.
Let's assume PRP will continue to move upwards by, say 7,000 per day on the average, and sieve 90% will average 1.15T per day.

Then, 100,000 will be reached 87 days from now. At that date, n+200k will be at 7,788,272 (=7,179,272+87*7000), and 90% sieve point will be at 528.91T (=428.859+87*1.15). And, 7.788272^2*125*528.91/40 =100,257.

Today is September 25th, so 87 days from now would be December 21st.

Of course, the progress on either fronts will not be linear. One has to correct for, say, if there is a FFT boundary close by (or any other factor what would increase/decrease PRP progress), and/or the bunch of completed sieve ranges between 450T and 500T (or any other factor what would increase/decrease sieve progress), etc.


As a result, it seems like we'll see a 100,000 score a few weeks earlier than my first guess of December 30th.

Nuri
09-24-2004, 06:07 PM
And, by the way,

584000-586000 Nuri
606000-608000 Nuri
628000-630000 Nuri

etc. are just coincidences. A couple of weeks ago, I convinced three of my friends to run sieve client on their PCs, but I was not sure of their reliability and speed. I chose those ranges for their machines. If they progress slowly, they'll have time until sieve catches up. Ranges are a bit apart from each other, because if they did nothing at all, I'll be able to take over at some point, and still catch up with the sieve. :D

ceselb
09-24-2004, 06:29 PM
My guess is november 20th by engracio (beginners luck :D ), the sieve 'feels' faster now.

vjs
09-24-2004, 07:14 PM
I'm really going to vote for nuri on this one, the only thing holding nuri back from getting the first 100k is his choices.

So nuri do you play blackjack I'd love for you to sit to my right for a few hands, we could dedicate the money to a new server.

vjs
10-01-2004, 11:01 AM
Looks like it may actually be one of the P-1 people, considering they have the new code for p-1 it looks like they will be producing alot more factors.

Wishing for a sse2 machine

Nuri
10-04-2004, 06:31 AM
As far as the timing of 100,000 score is concerned, it looks like the time will come much earlier than we predicted. Mainly because we have a faster PRP client now, and sieve output (still?) seems strong.

BTW, I will not try to punch "the" 100,000 first. :D

Mystwalker
10-04-2004, 02:17 PM
The new client definitely speeds up things. I vote November 17th - my birthday. :D

dmbrubac
10-05-2004, 08:18 PM
I'll go with Nov 24 and.... what the heck, me!

Death
10-25-2004, 03:38 PM
:|ot|:
Largest scores
p (T) k n Score Factor found Score changed Score was Score could be Reqd bias
666.453T 33661 7410744 86615.034 Thu 18-Mar-2004 Sat 23-Oct-2004 6.665 114378.093 16.66 DeadJDona (death)
503.809T 55459 7364938 85399.283 Fri 16-Jul-2004 Mon 18-Oct-2004 5.038 vjs

i'm on a top second time. I got 40k score first... and now 666 range gives me a highest position...

maybe this is offtop but I just want to brag a little

and well, 25 november is my bet ;)

vjs
10-25-2004, 04:14 PM
:cheers: Cheers Dude,

Now lets see how long you stay on top.

Death *-( ------- :sniper:

:thumbs:

560.540T 10223 7489277 5.605 Tue 12-Oct-2004 98250.887 14.01 <-- coming soon from VJS to a DC project near you

also the sequel a potential 100K score

563.834T 21181 7581644 5.638 Wed 21-Jul-2004 101280.964 14.10

Looks like you and I will be :|punch|: for the first 100K

not sure your
666.585T 21181 7567532 6.666 Fri 26-Mar-2004 119292.848 16.66

May make 100k first

Nuri
10-26-2004, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by vjs
also the sequel a potential 100K score

563.834T 21181 7581644 5.638 Wed 21-Jul-2004 101280.964 14.10

Looks like you and I will be :|punch|: for the first 100K

not sure your
666.585T 21181 7567532 6.666 Fri 26-Mar-2004 119292.848 16.66

May make 100k first

Let's guesstimate what score 563.834T 21181 7581644 5.638 Wed 21-Jul-2004 101280.964 14.10 will end up with.

First-pass is currently at 7239226, and daily change in n is 9480. If that daily change stays constant, min n will pass 7581644 in 36 days, whereafter the score will not increase anymore.

Where will 90% sieve point be in 36 days? Currently it's at 507.7T. I have not calculated cumulative sieve speed recently, so a couple of alternatives:

1000G/day: It'll not increase any further than 97664.

1200G/day: It'll not increase any further than 98958

1361G/day: It'll not increase any further than 99999. :Pokes:

1559.27G/day: It'll get all it's potential and score 101280.964. The score will not increase anymore for any faster G per day average.

I am not sure if the increase in 90% sieve point will be higher than 1361G/day.

Still, it's a good candidate. It'll be interesting to see at what score it'll end up with.

With the current relative speeds, any factor where p>560T and 7560000 < n < 7810000 looks like a good candidate to be the first to score 100,000+ at around the first week of December.

As you both pointed out, currently, the factors that fits the above criteria are:
666.585.485.406.991 21181 7567532 3419 44 (death)
563.833.698.024.767 21181 7581644 5202 81 (vjs)

I'm pretty sure stronger candidates will start to emerge as we come closer to the "day".

Other current, though less likely, 100,000 candidates are:
790.587.618.245.767 28433 7260817 1608 0
666.452.508.787.073 33661 7410744 3419 44
628.849.406.072.687 28433 7524673 1577 0
1.126.101.624.584.750 55459 7880458 3259 0
628.023.875.662.639 33661 7900440 1577 0
629.496.225.340.819 27653 7931553 1577 0
562.880.130.980.129 33661 7987320 5202 81

vjs
10-30-2004, 11:49 PM
Looks like Mike is going for the 100K score with his p-1 range.

750000-7550000 since any p-1 score below my 7581644 will beat me.

MikeH
10-31-2004, 06:43 AM
Looks like Mike is going for the 100K score with his p-1 range. Have to say my gut feel is that one of the P-1 guys will be the first to the 100k, so I figued I'd give it a try.

Nuri
10-31-2004, 10:17 AM
Good luck Mike.

And all others too, of course. :)

MikeH
11-02-2004, 06:03 PM
I think I've already lost it, pxl97 just got in there with a


12153.158T 21181 7555268 35.000 Tue 02-Nov-2004 2167898.401 303.83 pixl97

This is a very possible candidate.

pixl97
11-02-2004, 10:42 PM
Sweet, I've watched this thread for a long time, and never though I be in the running... many thanks to Priime95 and the SSE2 enabled P-1 client.

royanee
11-03-2004, 02:56 AM
That would require a 14.01 bias for pixl97 to have a 100k. I think however that it is more likely that the bias won't increase that much unless dmbrubac finishes up that low range soon (I'm not complaining, please don't be mad. I thank you so much for dedicating so much to the sieve! :) ). Of course, with the current bias of 12.83, that means that the first 100k will have an n below 7.9m. My guess (now that I understand Nuri's chart, hehe) will be around (7.55+7.9)/2 m = 7.725 m, with a bias of 13.41 as a result. If I had a p4 I would grab this range, but I don't... (please don't be mad if I'm wrong, just guessing for fun!). :)

Nuri
11-03-2004, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by royanee
(please don't be mad if I'm wrong, just guessing for fun!). :)

Sure, enjoy... Why would anyone be mad? And even if so, simply ignore him. ;)

In the end, it's the mutual fun we get that makes us come together here (at least, that's the case for me... :D ).

Mystwalker
11-03-2004, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by royanee
That would require a 14.01 bias for pixl97 to have a 100k. I think however that it is more likely that the bias won't increase that much unless dmbrubac finishes up that low range soon

0-560T has to be sieved except 56T - so basically everyone else is working on this "goal" as well.

But:
Right now, we're maybe at 83% (it's nearer to 85% than to 80% according to MikeH's page), which means that we need 7% = 39.2T
I'm not sure about the current progress, but I guess we're near 1T/day, which means that more than a month is still missing.

dmbrubac
11-03-2004, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by royanee
(I'm not complaining, please don't be mad. I thank you so much for dedicating so much to the sieve! :) ).

I couldn't get mad at that royanee! Maybe I'm trying to control the bias so I'm the first to 100k.... No, I'm not. I didn't even realize incomplete sieve ranges influenced the bias until I read your post. I gave a chunk of the range to keroberts to help get it out the door. Once its done I will probably go back to P-1 and PRP exclusively.

MikeH
11-03-2004, 12:58 PM
Well I just got my first shot in


794.526T 4847 7550823 7.945 Wed 03-Nov-2004 141561.964 19.86 MikeH But as you've pointed out for pixl97's, I need a bias of 14.03, which just isn't going to happen for at least another month, which is way too late.

Maybe I should have sat down and worked out the required bias before selecting the P-1 range. :bonk:

vjs
11-03-2004, 03:23 PM
I'm, very close <7days from finishing a 10T range at 490T so that should if I understand the bias correctly increase the 90% bias by 10T. Let hope mike updates my range with due dillegence :Pokes: when that happens.

Also to Death you were stuck at the top with that 666T for quite sometime, the view is pretty good....

ceselb
11-03-2004, 03:42 PM
( 268.31G) : 480500-490000 VJS (ETA: Mid Nov)

It counts factors as you submit them. See here (http://www.aooq73.dsl.pipex.com/gaps/Gaps_n3_20_ps0u.htm).

Death
11-04-2004, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by vjs
Also to Death you were stuck at the top with that 666T for quite sometime, the view is pretty good....

Yeah, I like the way it looks. :rolleyes:

MikeH
11-04-2004, 12:28 PM
Let hope mike updates my range with due diligence when that happens. As ceselb points out, the 90% calculation is automatic - it's done from the gap analysis, so it doesn't matter whether I update my copy of the reservations or not. Which is lucky because I'll be out of town next week - my first trip to the southern hemisphere in about 15 years :)

vjs
11-04-2004, 12:48 PM
Mike,

This is perfect... the way things are going lately, you will be out of town when we need a major dat file update, b/c we found a new prime :mad: :mad: :mad:.

Hummmm.....

Hold on a second, this would be a good thing :|party|: :|party|: :|party|:

Isn't this the way life would work, anyway if it does happen I'll inform people on how to reduce the current dat to 10K or upload one as a message it if it's O.K. with you.

MikeH
11-04-2004, 12:56 PM
Hold on a second, this would be a good thing Last prime that was found I was out of town, so who knows.:D

Mystwalker
11-04-2004, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by MikeH
Last prime that was found I was out of town, so who knows.:D

<spanishInquisition>Hm, interesting...
So you say that you're out of town when a prime is found. Can you prove that it's not YOU who has put it there in the first place?</spanishInquisition> ;)

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!

vjs
11-04-2004, 04:05 PM
Yes but the logic of Pinky and the Brain is flawless

Brain: Perhaps, he is finding them all of the time, and just not telling us
Pinky: why would he do that Brain
Brain: Because Pinky, he is TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD

vjs
11-11-2004, 09:01 AM
WEll what do you guys think, has someone taken it???

Just to let all know I submitted a nice 7.55m a couple days ago, around 560T it would probably make a very low 100K score.

Death
11-11-2004, 09:52 AM
whell, whenn scoress comm backk we'll see

vjs
11-11-2004, 01:05 PM
Mike,

I just trying to figure out a way of keeping the 100K score for himself.

I'm going to cry foul if he wins :swear:

ShoeLace
11-14-2004, 06:22 PM
p k n Score Factor found Score changed Score was Score could be Reqd bias
605.507T 28433 7412233 90070.131 Sat 13-Nov-2004 103960.191 15.14


for my first factor.. this is pretty darn good.

Death
11-15-2004, 08:15 AM
Largest scores
p (T) k n Score Factor found Score changed Score was Score could be Reqd bias
563.834T 21181 7581644 94730.599 Wed 21-Jul-2004 Sat 13-Nov-2004 5.638 101280.964 14.10 vjs
557.208T 21181 7580348 94698.216 Sat 13-Nov-2004 100056.604 13.93 vjs
666.585T 21181 7567532 94378.276 Fri 26-Mar-2004 Sat 13-Nov-2004 6.666 119292.848 16.66 DeadJDona (death)

vjs
11-15-2004, 08:53 AM
It's tight Death within 6K I was kind of thinking we would have had our first 100K score today.

MikeH
11-15-2004, 09:45 AM
It's tight Death within 6K I was kind of thinking we would have had our first 100K score today. I still think we are about a week away from 100k.

vjs, your current top place needs a 90% sieve point of ~560, which probably won't happen for another month, which probably means that PRP will have washed over and it will never make 100k. Sorry. ;)

I agree with what someone else wrote, that the first 100k factor will be n~7.7M, and will be about a week from now. This one looks promising


302.920P 28433 7712305 35.000 Mon 15-Nov-2004 56304931.022 7573.00 frodo42

I still might be in with a chance if my current factor range yields something....:swear:

fixed table formatting /ceselb

MikeH
11-18-2004, 03:17 PM
and now there's three good looking candidates from dmbrubac


858.158T 21181 7680500 8.582 Sat 13-Nov-2004 158196.214 21.45 dmbrubac
2812.486T 55459 7685518 28.125 Wed 17-Nov-2004 519142.668 70.31 dmbrubac
10479.524T 4847 7685847 35.000 Wed 17-Nov-2004 1934528.067 261.99 dmbrubac

fixed table formatting /ceselb

vjs
11-18-2004, 04:30 PM
Yup,

I think your right my 7.58's will increase up until the prp passes over them but I don't think they will reach 100K.

My best hope looks like

556.299T 55459 7757230 104609.638

Unless I have something else just stashed away

:sofa:

royanee
11-18-2004, 04:50 PM
It will really depend on which goes faster, sieving or prp. As for factor bragging, check it out:

427.793T 67607 130571 0.426 Wed 17-Nov-2004

Yay for almost half a point!!!

Quick Glance (if prp edge is at the n, then they need the following bias):

dmbrubac:
7680500 - 13.56
7685518 - 13.54 (this one is so close to the next one that this one is unlikely to win)
7685847 - 13.54

vjs:
7586383 - 13.90 (current leader, but probably not the winner)
7757230 - 13.29 (this bias = the current 90% sieve bias... so not the winner...)


These are all the ones that I can see, so unless there's a hidden ace somewhere, dmbrubac will probably be the winner with n=7685847.

By the way, even after your factors have entered the active window, they can still gain points, so if everyone stopped sieving, vjs' 7581644 would be the winner.

vjs
11-18-2004, 05:14 PM
stopped sieving,

You mean stop prp'ing right...

Yes the factors will continue to increase in score as long as the prp front I.E. the lower part of the window has not pasted it by.

So in other words that score will continue to grow until n=7586383+200k= n=7786383 as far as I understand. But before that score exits the window, my n=7757230 - 13.29 will have entered...

I'm not claiming victory or anything that's the last thing, my pairs just look very lucky.

But

858.158T 21181 7680500 :eek:

Has me scared...

MikeH
11-19-2004, 10:20 AM
Finally I have one that I can throw into the ring


363.127P 33661 7702152 35.000 Fri 19-Nov-2004 67318271.485 9078.18 MikeH

Required bias to get that to 100k = 13.485 (90% = 539.4)
Still don't rate my chances 'cause there's other good stuff to the immediate left are right of me.:gangpunch . Good luck everyone.:cheers:

vjs
11-19-2004, 04:25 PM
O.K. looks like it's about time to start seriously thinking about the 100k score it could be anyday now.

At time of posting n is at 7453004 if a factor were found for (7653004) the min 90% bias T would have to be 13.65 or 546.36T for the first 100k score, not going to happen...

So what does this mean!!!

Well it's a race between advancing prp and sieve T level, who is in the race, which factors are more likely, and who at current time will win if nothing changes....

It's a neck and neck, knock down, drag out, hair, pulling event :rolleyes: relatively speaking...

The contenders for top prize...

Basically what I have listed is as follows, the n of the factor and the bias required to reach 100K.

Of course the factor isn't worth 100K until it's entered the window.
Lost it's ability to increase in score once it exits the window.
And will continue to increase in score as 90% sieve advances.

Here we go...

VJS, dmbrubac, MikeH, Frodo

First lets look at my factors, They are all 100k scores if sieve were high enough.


My factors

n 100K Bias 100K T
7586383 13.90 556.00*
7581644 13.91 556.70 x-
7580348 13.92 556.89 x-

Once the higher n enters the window it will remain in 1st place advancing in score until it reaches 100K (at the 100K T level) (winning) or another higher n enter.

*- In the lead
x- Lower n's will never win with increasing bias

However my lead candidate will be knocked out by Duramac's within the day...

Duramac
7680500 13.56 542.46
7685518 13.54 541.75
7685847 13.54 541.70*

So duramac will stay in the lead with his factors until another n beats him or we wins when sieve 541.70T is reached.

So my current scored factors are out of the race.

However along comes MikeH at

7702152 13.48 539.41

Mike will be in the lead with this score for a while winning at 539.41T sieve, or until Frodo enters the window at 7712506.

Frodo
7712305 13.44 537.99
7712506 13.44 537.97

If sieve reaches 537.97 before n= 7757229, frodo will win...

If not my

VJS
7757230 13.29 531.78

Will enter the window with a score of 100+K, winning.


Does anyone have any other factors out there???




VJS
7586383 13.90 556.00
7581644 13.91 556.70
7580348 13.92 556.89
7757230 13.29 531.78

Duramac
7680500 13.56 542.46
7685518 13.54 541.75
7685847 13.54 541.70*

Mikeh
7702152 13.48 539.41

Frodo
7712305 13.44 537.99
7712506 13.44 537.97



This message will be posted on the main page as well.... Please only respond here!!!

MikeH
11-19-2004, 05:56 PM
Just a minor comment.

7586383 13.90 556.00

can never get to 100k. It's max bias is 13.87, and it's max score is 99775.593.

But you do still have some good candidates there ;)

vjs
11-19-2004, 06:02 PM
Arrgh, Good catch,

7586383 13.90 556.00 Isn't high enough but

7581644 13.91 556.70 Could make it,


Regardless I'm throwing in the towel on these 3, 7581644 may reach 100k but it won't be the first one to do so.

vjs
11-19-2004, 06:27 PM
Also wanted to point out another what if...

If we were to get a prime :|party|:

The possibility exists that that factor could score 0 ???


A unique factor scores as follows:
p > 40T, in ‘main active' window, 0 PRP tests performed, score = (n/1M ^ 2) * 125 * bias
p > 40T, k=prime; as above then frozen when a prime is found, factors found after the prime score 0

Mystwalker
11-19-2004, 08:34 PM
So it seems like Duramac would win if the sieve production is at least 7T in the next 5 days...

For the right tip, I could divert computing power from PSP - for an even greater tip, I could let it be. :rotfl: j/k

dmbrubac
11-21-2004, 11:55 AM
I've dumped some more horsepower on my big range holding back the sieve point lately, so we might just get that 7T.

324000-329000 completed Nov 19
329000-329500 60% complete at 540 k/s
329500-330000 60% complete at 540 k/s
330000-333000 transfered to keroberts1
333000-333500 25% complete at 530 k/s
333500-334000 25% complete at 170 k/s

It looks like my Nov 24 guess was pretty good too! BTW I seem to now be known as Duramac!:rotfl:

Mystwalker
11-21-2004, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by dmbrubac
BTW I seem to now be known as Duramac!:rotfl:

Not my fault - I just took it from the posting above... :cool:

minbari
11-21-2004, 04:55 PM
All 3 of my reserved ranges; 514000-514400, 517000-517200, 518000-520000 according to sobistrator should be complete on Nov. 25th.:cheers:

vjs
11-22-2004, 10:00 AM
dmbrubac,

My appologies, not sure how that happend but it looks like I was the orginal poster on that screw-up.

vjs
11-22-2004, 03:32 PM
With the sieve at 538.444T and n at 7674591,

Looks like Mikes,

7702152 13.48 539.41 should be capable of a 100K when it enters the window, <1G away.

The only question is if sieve can reach 541.70T before then...

7685847 13.54 541.70

So it's either going to be dmbrubac, or MikeH. I'm pretty sure I'm out of the race and it doesn't look good for Frodo.

dmbrubac
11-22-2004, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by vjs
dmbrubac,

My appologies, not sure how that happend but it looks like I was the orginal poster on that screw-up.

No worries man, I just laughed.

royanee
11-23-2004, 02:49 AM
Unless a new factor comes through, dmbrubac has this cat in the bag. As of this moment, no factor has a chance of getting into the top stop before one of his barring extremely strange circumstances. If you are plowing away trying to find some more factors: sieve, factor, and be merry! Good luck!!!

pixl97
11-23-2004, 05:42 AM
pixl97 2137.522T 4847 7679247 99429.291 Mon 22-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 21.375 393910.815 53.44

Five Hundred Seventy One points from being the first 100K. So close, yet so far away!
edit...
hmmm, I guess as the sieve range increases the score does also.
2137.522T 4847 7679247 99576.934 Mon 22-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 21.375 393910.815 53.44

vjs
11-23-2004, 11:08 AM
Lowest N required to reach 100K at present sieve level.

n=7695546 Current 90% T=540.345 Max Bais=13.51

Sorry Pixl97 :( prp has reached 7484477 by the time of this posting.

Meaning dmbrubac's 7680500 has scored and soon his largest at
7685847 13.54 541.70 will score. :cheers:

Won't proclaim a winner 100% but looks like sieve will push one of his scores to 100k before another factor comes along.

vjs
11-23-2004, 11:18 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

7685518
7685847
7689298
7691621
7691751

I think dmbrubac has this one wrapped up, unless someone can slip in a factor???

dmbrubac
11-23-2004, 12:10 PM
It's crazy how many factors I managed to get in that window. It was all planned too of course!

vjs
11-23-2004, 12:12 PM
What type of settings did you use to find those factors, some of them are really pretty big.

Perhaps you have found an optimal setting of B1, B2 or something???

:Pokes: Really trying to get that 100K, hmmm...:cheers:

dmbrubac
11-23-2004, 12:41 PM
I tend to use the defaults because I don't understand how things work well enough to fiddle. I switched over to Prime95 about 6 weeks ago and I use the make_worktodo.pl script keroberts posted. Factor depth is 1.5 I think.

Keroberts1
11-23-2004, 02:05 PM
wasn't me who posted it sorry

dmbrubac
11-23-2004, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Keroberts1
wasn't me who posted it sorry

My apologies - hc_grove posted it.

Death
11-23-2004, 02:55 PM
Largest scores
p (T) k n Score Factor found Score changed Score was Score could be Reqd bias
858.158T 21181 7680500 99609.432 Sat 13-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 8.582 158196.214 21.45 dmbrubac
2137.522T 4847 7679247 99576.934 Mon 22-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 21.375 393910.815 53.44 pixl97
554.760T 24737 7586383 97183.158 Mon 15-Nov-2004 99775.593 13.87 vjs

I suppose this happens in a next stat update!!!

congrats to all three winners!!!

Death
11-24-2004, 04:15 AM
Largest scores
p (T) k n Score Factor found Score changed Score was Score could be Reqd bias
10479.524T 4847 7685847 100044.244 Wed 17-Nov-2004 Wed 24-Nov-2004 35.000 1934528.067 261.99 dmbrubac
2812.486T 55459 7685518 100035.680 Wed 17-Nov-2004 Wed 24-Nov-2004 28.125 519142.668 70.31 dmbrubac
858.158T 21181 7680500 99905.092 Sat 13-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 8.582 158196.214 21.45 dmbrubac
2137.522T 4847 7679247 99872.498 Mon 22-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 21.375 393910.815 53.44 pixl97
554.760T 24737 7586383 97471.616 Mon 15-Nov-2004 99775.593 13.87 vjs
563.834T 21181 7581644 97349.879 Wed 21-Jul-2004 Sat 13-Nov-2004 5.638 101280.964 14.10 vjs
4083.378T 21181 7580828 97328.925 Tue 23-Nov-2004 733335.750 102.08 hc_grove
557.208T 21181 7580348 97316.600 Sat 13-Nov-2004 100056.604 13.93 vjs
7401.097T 21181 7574444 97165.068 Mon 22-Nov-2004 1326928.837 185.03 hc_grove
476.869P 27653 7571949 97101.066 Fri 19-Nov-2004 85440657.529 9999.99 hc_grove
1652.447P 24737 7571191 97081.626 Fri 19-Nov-2004 296009769.058 9999.99 hc_grove
666.585T 21181 7567532 96987.814 Fri 26-Mar-2004 Sat 13-Nov-2004 6.666 119292.848 16.66 DeadJDona (death)

:elephant: :drums: :cheers: :cheers: :|party|:

MikeH
11-24-2004, 05:43 AM
Congratulations dmbrubac :cheers: :|party|:

dmbrubac
11-24-2004, 06:25 AM
Thank-you! Thank-you!

I'd trade all this fame and glory for a prime though

:allhail:

Nuri
11-24-2004, 09:17 AM
Congratulations.

Best luck in search for the primes to you & all...

vjs
11-24-2004, 12:14 PM
Congrats dude, :cheers:

It was nice to be king of the hill for a while but looks good from down hear as well.
:notworthy :notworthy


Now lets chase after that next prime. :thumbs:



So what do you think about a 200K score, somewhere around n=8.5m and sieve around 900T???

vjs
03-22-2005, 04:21 PM
Just thought I'd bring this post up from the past.

So who is going to score 200K...

What n and p?

To quote myself


somewhere around n=8.5m and sieve around 900T

Is obviously out...

It looks to me without calc'ing somewhere around a n=8.9M... and p would have to be above 800T

So unfortunately I don't think the winner will be a siever this time either :(