Wrapper talk

[Angus]

If you run the boinc wrapper, than you get your credits on your boinc account and also your boinc team gets the credits. This is what boinc users expects and it should be as expected by boinc users, this was the intention to bring more users to the native projects. Boinc users will see there credits in boincstats.com and formular boinc and other sites for competition.
If credits would be also credited on the native project, then a user and team would get credits twice, which I think is not fair.

And look to the DPAD stats
http://www.stephenbrooks.org/muon1/
1. Team is Team Anandtech
and
1. User is [TA]amd.borg

Yes the boinc wrapper is listed there, but without a rank. Or do you mean there should be a separation line between the boinc wrapper and the 1. user or the amount which was dony via Boinc should be listed else where?

yoyo

A "wrapped" non-boinc project should accumulate the stats on their native stats site, for the native site user and team, using the same accounts as if run outside the wrapper. Report the finished work to the project using the correct user native accounts, and let the projects produce their correct unified stats. Do NOT export stats to BOINC stats consolidators for projects that exist outside of BOINC.

There should be NO BOINC stats generated for those. They are not BOINC projects, and don't need to be considered in any BOINC stats summary.

You have it completely backwards.

[Saenger]

A "wrapped" non-boinc project should accumulate the stats on their native stats site, for the native site user and team, using the same accounts as if run outside the wrapper. Report the finished work to the project using the correct user native accounts, and let the projects produce their correct unified stats. Do NOT export stats to BOINC stats consolidators for projects that exist outside of BOINC.

There should be NO BOINC stats generated for those. They are not BOINC projects, and don't need to be considered in any BOINC stats summary.

You have it completely backwards.

They are part of a BOINC project, so they should get BOINC credits.
If they want to maintain their own stats it's up to them to do this, it's not Yoyos problem. WCG somehow managed this, though of course there is the possible problem of double crediting on all-DC stats sites as this here (doesn't apply to WCG, as they don't have a client running outside, just had one in parallel "inside").

Yoyo did some very laudable and good work to get new users to the science of the off-BOINC projects, and he did so with the consent of the admins and scientists of the original project. Science is the main thing of the projects, credits/points/WU-count are a nice add-on. Getting more science done is far more important than getting stats right, but of course stats should be OK nevertheless. And in regard with yoyo@home they are.