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    Sorry - it kind of evolved in my meanderings - I'll try again. Forget all that went before.

    Free-DC Legacy (or EnigMax) is intended to be a measure of "All Time Achievement" in Free-DC terms. It hopefully provides a 'standard' by which all Boincers past and present can be fairly compared and ranked, and to a large extent negates the effect of the slant given by the likes of Bitcoin Utopia and maybe some others I don't know about.

    To do this I am suggesting that you total all Free-DC MegaMilestones that are not affected by time, so that it doesn't matter if you haven't Boinced for years or not, you could still occasionally look in on your Legacy.

    So we need to specifically count:- Projects and Subprojects, all the count breaks (1ks, 10ks, etc, Sub1k's Sub10k's etc) Trigggls, Boks, TeraBoks etc (and their Sub equivalents) and Nebbers.

    Or to put it another way count all MMs except :- SquarePants, Maxwells, MiRBs and SubMiRBs, Vaios, Top10s, Top100 Ranks etc (and their Sub equivalents), Clanks and SubClanks.

    There may well be others I don't even know about but hopefully you get the gist, if they are affected by time then they are excluded. Obviously any new MM's would have to be considered for inclusion in the Legacy count.

    Optional Length of Service Weighting
    Having gotten a total, a 'bonus' or weighting could then be applied to reward longer term Boincers. I would suggest a 1% or 2% bonus for every year Boinced. I am open about this but appreciate you would need to track a "Last Seen Date" as well as the current "First Seen Date", and update it yearly or daily, whichever seems right - and that may well be impossible to do retrospectively, though it may be in your database somewhere in some form or another. If it can't be done then hey ho, never mind.
    So it would look something like this:-
    Legacy = Total of Counts x (( 100 + No of years service) / 100 )

    Optional Total Credit Rank Weighting
    Perhaps there is an opportunity for another weighting based on total credits earned which might appease the heavy Bitcoin Utopia Boincers. I've only just thought of this and I am not altogether sure it is a good idea, but you could weight the count like this
    Legacy = Total of Counts x (( 100 + Percentile ) / 100 ) Note: Where Percentile comes from the main userbycpid summary
    You could do both. It might make it more interesting because it would make it even harder to work out where on earth the rank came from

    However you arrive at a Legacy number, this should then be ranked which is really the point of it.

    To keep changes simpler, the Legacy Count itself and subsequent Free-DC Legacy Rank, need not appear on the MM table. I would be happy with just the Legacy Rank appearing in the main userbycpid summary, where we can all see just how good (or not) our Legacy will be, though it would be nice if clicking it could show everyone in Ranked order if that is possible - I imagine it could possibly increase rivalry.

    I would argue that Legacy itself should not contribute towards any other MM, particularly Maxwells, MiRBs and TeraMiRBs, and certainly not Squarepants.
    I also think that whilst it might sound complicated, it's not much different from counting and ranking Squarepants

    I hope that makes sense now. Happy to answer any questions. Cheers.
    Last edited by MarkRBright; 03-04-2021 at 08:06 PM. Reason: Clarity

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    I can't believe nobody thinks enough of this idea to comment on it one way or the other. Weird!
    Perhaps most current people looking have heavily invested in Bitcoin Utopia, fair enough, if I had I would probably think the same way.
    However I for one still feel having some form of leveller across time would be good.
    Oh well. I will retire shortly safe in the knowledge that once I had reached the dizzy heights of 1937th in the rankings, but have since dropped steadily to 2110th today and my contribution will forever become more and more meaningless. Hey Ho!

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    Just thought I would remind all the many interested parties that I am still happy to answer any questions

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    I did a little bit of work on this but didn't get that far yet.

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    Cool. Very happy to hear it.

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    So I've just calculated my Legacy value by adding up the non-time related MMs and used both of the above optional weightings and come up with a grand total of 3249.
    It's probably worth mentioning that I used a decimal for "No of years service". Just to be clear, I have done 9.49 years of Boincing for example so I get a 9.49% bonus.
    If anyone wants to compare that's fine but without a rank it's pretty meaningless, so if you all want to post your Legacy values here ....
    Last edited by MarkRBright; 04-08-2021 at 12:17 PM. Reason: Accuracy

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    So its 3 weeks and some later, and after a monumental effort I have managed to rank all the manually calculated Legacy values posted here and I am now in a position to publish the entire ranked Legacy list here and it looks like this ;-)

    1. MarkRBright 3268

    So glad you have all joined in with this one and taken it to heart

    I have about a weeks worth of excuses left before finally giving up with what's left of my farm (bit more like a window box these days though), so I thought one last nudge to you Bok for Legacy. I shall keep one PC going, albeit only when it's actively in use from now on. I still think Legacy is my best idea by miles and would love to see it implemented, but whilst this thread has been read over 1000 times, it seems only Werimbert agrees with me (Thank you!) though it may just have been an attempt to claim the name

    To all of you who will one day be forced to, or feel the need to, or just want to, stop BOINCing, and would like to have something lasting and fairly solid to remember/remind/reward/rank you for your efforts over the years, that you could just pop in and check up on from time to time, you could always consider giving this thread a kick, and if you are more successful than me please message me as I would love to know just how far down the pecking order I really am.

    Bok, Thankyou for humouring me over the years, it was much appreciated.

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    OK, so my week's wind-down unsurprisingly took a little longer than expected, but after notching up my final Bok, I have no more excuses available to me and it's time to bite the bullet.
    I have a snapshot of my spreadsheet as it stands today with it's best numbers about to be decimated by inactivity, but I know just how good or bad I was, I have MY Legacy!
    I shall doubtless call in every now and again (and if I spot a new project, I may just be tempted to quickly notch up another 100k/Bok/Nebber/Project and of course up my Legacy), but for now I leave with an unopposed Legacy of 3290, firmly in the number one (and only) slot! With any luck if I pop back in I will have been put in my correct place. I sincerely hope I am Bok.
    I shall really miss this, but needs must, and with any luck Quantum Computing will make this all unnecessary one day anyway, who knows?
    The most important thing is that I was having fun doing it and keeping my ageing brain occupied, I hope I did some small modicum of good. Keep up the good work all of you. (Now where's that electricity bill?)

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    I pretty much do the same thing. Got 2 24core machines switched off, plus my kids each have a dual hexcore not doing much of anything. I jump on anything new and that's about it.

    As for coding, still knee deep in work stuff. Been learning a lot of Azure stuff, Data Factory and Databricks (python and Spark stuff) for interfacing. Lots of other stuff going on in life too, some bad unfortunately. Having to take of all that first which is slow going.

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    thanks for that Bok, glad to hear the idea is not dead - I will look in from time to time to hopefully find out just how bad I really am

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