DPAD stats

[Bok]

As you may have noticed the DPAD stats have not updated today..I get my stats from some pages MAgnavox did quite some time ago and it looks like the domain name he was using expired yesterday. I think it's been renewed now, but the pages have been replaced with some domain name squatting pages for now. Might just need time for DNS to catch up again with the renewal.

I've got a PM into him, but I'm not sure he's even been on Free-DC for some time..

At worst, I'll rewrite the stats gathering to go direct to the moun1 site..

Bok :thumbs:

[JustEmazing]

Thanks for all you do, Bok.
Your diligence and your good-nature while providing for us are much appreciated!:thumbs: :cheers:

[LAURENU2]

Thanks for all you do, Bok.
Your diligence and your good-nature while providing for us are much appreciated!:thumbs: :cheers:
I will 2nd That :thumbs: Bok is always on top of it
Bok
I got a Question in the stats in DPC teamrank.php
http://stats.free-dc.org/new/teamrank.php?proj=dpad&team=Dutch+Power+Cows

Who are the Cows being compared to ?

[Bok]

Actually,

I have no idea!

Probably a bug where there is no team immediately above. Will take a look...

Bok :looney:

[LAURENU2]

Actually,

I have no idea!

Probably a bug where there is no team immediately above. Will take a look...

Bok :looney:

:woot: I found a Bug :stomp: :rotfl:

[CFS]

As you may have noticed the DPAD stats have not updated today..I get my stats from some pages MAgnavox did quite some time ago and it looks like the domain name he was using expired yesterday. I think it's been renewed now, but the pages have been replaced with some domain name squatting pages for now. Might just need time for DNS to catch up again with the renewal.

I've got a PM into him, but I'm not sure he's even been on Free-DC for some time..

At worst, I'll rewrite the stats gathering to go direct to the moun1 site..

Bok :thumbs:
Thx Bok, i mis :confused: the stats :smoking: :rock:

[Bok]

Does anyone have any other way of contacting Magnav0x ?

I've not had a reply to a PM and have sent emails to two addresses I had for him. One has bounced back..

If I do rewrite the gathering, it will lose some of the history and everyones 'names' will also change. It appears he assigned unique id's to each user and whereas I could duplicate that, it would add to the confusion.

SO, I'd rather fix them as they are if possible..

Bok

p.s. CFS, did the DPC do a :dump: ? Looks like a good 100M+ from looking at the stats at muon1 ! Nice!

[TurtleBlue]

Bok

p.s. CFS, did the DPC do a :dump: ? Looks like a good 100M+ from looking at the stats at muon1 ! Nice!

Hi, Bok...
Sure looks like those DPC's used ALL of those computers that control those dykes in Holland for dPad! :eek:

I posted the following at anandtech:

From Free-DC dpad page (edited):

Data Cked : 2007-05-06 23:53:22 CDT
Data Up : 2007-05-06 23:53:22
Cur Time : 2007-05-08 17:05:47

Team.........................................Mpts
Dutch Power Cows................1,386,542,285
Free-DC.org.........................1,277,573,006
Team Anandtech...................1,227,861,310
ARS Technica
- Team Atomic Milkshake...........552,784,378
Romulus2................................294,250,542
SETI.Germany..........................290,646,265
US-Distributed.........................245,088,080
Overclockers Australia...............198,062,887
Team Ninja..............................162,264,738


From Stephen's Site (Edited):

All Optimisations Tab-separated stats list [updated 2007-May-08; 21:19]


Team...........................................Mpts.......................Amt. Change.................% Change

:allhail::allhail::allhail:
1. Dutch Power Cows..................1,492,031,855.............105,489,570................7.0701955622
:allhail::allhail::allhail:




2. Free-DC.org...........................1,282,961,548.................5,388,542..............0.400080671


3. Anandtech............................1,232,363,646..................4,502,336..............0.3653415 138

4. ARS Technica...........................555,746,115.................2,961,737..............0.5329298613

5. SETI.Germany...........................312,689,991...............22,043,726..............7.049706301 6

6. Romulus2.................................294,377,252...................126,710..............0.043043 4074

7. US-Distributed..........................245,198,797...................110,717..............0.0451539736

8. Overclockers Australia...............199,249,687.................1,186,800..............0.5956345618

9. Team Ninja..............................162,164,238..................-100,500.............-0.0619742067 :confused:

:rock: Thus the FAT LADY is :partyon: for DPC

[Fozzie]

No :dump: for DPC the reason for the mismatch is that Magnavox's stats separates out DPC NGS subteam members and Stephens don't

They :dump: 11 or so million recently but we are still catching them :stomp:

[[NGS]Cpt00Kirk]

thats right Fozzie..... :thumbs:

did contact bok about our team but it wat a problem that Stephen had 2 fix ... he said..

hope that the DPAD stats Free-DC makes now will be corrected so we can see how we realy do :rock:

ps.... :clap: nice output Free-DC :clap:

[CFS]

Cpt00Kirk']thats right Fozzie..... :thumbs:

did contact bok about our team but it wat a problem that Stephen had 2 fix ... he said..

hope that the DPAD stats Free-DC makes now will be corrected so we can see how we realy do :rock:

ps.... :clap: nice output Free-DC :clap:
Yes, and BOK keep up the good work:cheers: and to LAURENU2 :Pokes: you got a nice output:scared: to all Free-DC members :thumbs:

[CFS]

look here for some stats:

http://dpad.qik.nl/index.php?team=Free-DC&date=2007-05-09

[LAURENU2]

Yes, and BOK keep up the good work:cheers: and to LAURENU2 :Pokes: you got a nice output:scared: to all Free-DC members :thumbs:
:hiya: Thanks :hiya:

[Assimilator1]

Thanks for the heads up Bok :) ,hopefully you'll hear from him soon!

[Bok]

Can people take a look at these stats (http://stats.free-dc.org/new/projpage.php?proj=dpad2)

and let me know if they are accurate??

I'm doing these direct from the muon1 site and trying to take into account the quirks where the rules actually do not quite fit...

Obviously they are from scratch and do not have the same 'names' as the previous stats, not too much I can do about that as they were internally allocated my magnav0x, I actually prefer to hold them this way so they match with whatever the site has..

And they would take a day or so to settle down...

I may still tweak them over the rest of the day....

Bok

p.s. oh and the two DPC teams are merged.....which must have been a bug in mags stats as it works if the rules are followed.

[LAURENU2]

Good work Bok
Ya they seem about right Except that I output just a tad bit more each day then the 275,482,150 Mpts it says I did today:harhar:
:umm: You must be missing something like adding every ones output to mine:jester:

[Bok]

As they are from scratch, there is no history, so it looks like everything is today :)

I have written a simple perl script which checks the original stats against these, matching the 'nicknames' - it would work in 95% of cases but for some it would mess up completely (where there are multiple names..) - at the end of the day (no pun intended) it will correct itself once it rolls over a few days..

If it's all ok, I'll move it over to be proj=dpad tonight :thumbs:

I was getting stats withdrawal for a while :looney:

Bok

[TurtleBlue]

:allhail: Bok = Real Genius (eat your heart out, Val Kilmer!) :smoking:



Thanks - ck'ed with my stats on TeamAnandtech's [TA]dPad and it looks ok. :thumbs:

Best one day dump since crunching for ole Seti@home Classic. :hifi:

[kaptainblazzed]

Are the DPAD stats working in DCR?

[Bok]

Not until I migrate dpad2 -> dpad

which will be monday at the latest (at which time I'll be adding in the extra DCR projects I promised last week too)

And getting the seti stats up to date....

Bok :cheers:

[caferace]

Great job, Bok! :hifi:

Roll it into the main stuph.

-jim

[Bok]

Moved into main dpad stats....

DCR should catch up on next run :)

oops, one drawback is that everyone is going to have to go into statstool and update their id's as I have different names to the old stats... Sorry!

Bok :thumbs:

[caferace]

Moved into main dpad stats....

DCR should catch up on next run :)

oops, one drawback is that everyone is going to have to go into statstool and update their id's as I have different names to the old stats... Sorry!

Bok :thumbs:

Rockin!! :rock:

What should we change our names to? Would I use [TA]caferace ? I tried just caferace and that didn't seem to take.

My old ID was 9263...

-jim

[LAURENU2]

Good Work Bok:thumbs:
But I sure do miss the history:bang:
:umm: Makes it real hard to make plans
on how to take over the World :rotfl:

[Bok]

caferace:

Well, mine is Bok[Free-dc.org]

basically, get your userpage in the stats and use whatever is in the url for name=xxxxx less any obvious html formatting

Saying that, I don't see you in the Xtreme teams, so there may be a bug I haven't seem yet.... let me know. :yikes:

Lauren:

yeah, it's a pain, would just screw too much up at this point if I ra na script to try and fix the history..., it'll be ok in a week or so :p

Looks like DPC are trying to take advantage.... :)

Bok :bouncy:

[BlackMountainCow]

Wow, nice work on the stats Bok! :thumbs:

Yes, the lost history hurts, but working stats are better than working history! :looney:

[Jeff]

Nice work Mr. Bok! :cheers:

[LAURENU2]

I guess I will just have to wait on my world domination plans
Now what Else can I dominate until then :slap:

[Digital Parasite]

Nice work Bok, good to see things updating again.

[CFS]

I guess I will just have to wait on my world domination plans
Now what Else can I dominate until then :slap:
Hmmm :Pokes: your pc's (nice pic's) or ClimatePrediction crunchen or http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10734 just the hints you need :Pokes: :umm: :jester: but :thumbs:

[4X4N]

I can't seem to get the statstool working. My id is: %5BXS%5D4x4n, not sure what part of that to use. I've tried using all of it, XS4x4n, and a few others. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

EDIT: Just realized this is my first post after 1 year. :)

[Bok]

it's just literally [XS]4x4n

I updated it for you..


HTML formatting replaces the [ and ] with codes
Bok :cheers:

[4X4N]

Excellent, thanks Bok! :thumbs:

I guess I just forgot to put the tags in :bonk:

[LAURENU2]

:Pokes: I think the stats are stuck "Again":bang:

[Fozzie]

with my Uberdump this morning. :jester:

[Bok]

There is an old saying of a bear in the woods you just reminded me of :lmao:

Bok :jester:

[LAURENU2]

with my Uberdump this morning. :jester:
I sure hope you Cleaned up after your self

[Fozzie]

see how much I had saved up.

Was hoping to hit something around the million mark.

[Bok]

me too...

[LAURENU2]

Thats OK, :beep: when the stats do come back online we will be a 100 mil closer to our goal :lmao:

I am sill UL-ing did close to 100 meg so fare

[BlackMountainCow]

Is there a glitch in the stats right now? I just lost some 3,4 million points, as almost everybody lost some points. :confused:

[HaloJones]

the stats are very old, I'm back to around my 2005 numbers. Stephen will sort it out soon I hope.

[Jeff]

Hmmm... I'm down about 6.5 million right now. I wouldn't mind, but I only have ~7.0 million points. :lmao:

[IronBits]

Once the database has settled down over at the official site, you may want to zero out everything in your db Bok.
You had just started with a new database and didn't have much history anyways, so nothing would be lost and hopefully the graphs would recover more quickly, especially if you can tell the graphs to ignore the initial startup points. ;)

[LAURENU2]

Ya tell it to ignore my graphs :rock: They look like I fell down a flight of stairs:bang:

:umm: Any body have a few Mpts they can spare :rotfl:

[Fozzie]

and looks like DPAD has gone to Hell in a handcart.

What the ever lovin' flock is going on, I'm down 50% of my total?

:swear: :swear:

[HaloJones]

I'm down 80%. Stephen had better get this sorted.

[JustEmazing]

hehe. hmmm, looks like I've never run DPAD :rotfl:

[LAURENU2]

I'm down 80%. Stephen had better get this sorted.
I think he if just guessing on :idea: what to do to get the system back up
Stat Man Bok do you think you can help?

[Bok]

I think he'll get there, eventually..

If not, well I do have a backup of the stats...

Bok :cheers:

[LAURENU2]

I think he'll get there, eventually..

But But But I want it Now:hair:

[IronBits]

I believe he is shooting for Tuesday for his database conversion/move to be finished.

[LAURENU2]

I believe he is shooting for Tuesday for his database conversion/move to be finished.

You right on the mark AGAIN IB:cheers:

:Pokes: Bok can you check your records to see if our teams total is up
to where it is suppose to be It seems a bit short to me :swear:

[Bok]

Definitely short...

But then, I'm at least 6M down still..

Bok

[Bok]

This was close to the last backup I had before the failure...

http://stats.free-dc.org/new/projpage.php?proj=dpad3

Bok :thumbs:

[LAURENU2]

This was close to the last backup I had before the failure...

http://stats.free-dc.org/new/projpage.php?proj=dpad3

Bok :thumbs:
Thanks Bok will use it to :Pokes: Stephen :rock:

[Bok]

Condor is missing close to 50M...

[LAURENU2]

Yes I see I have been posting there in the DPAD forum to keep it alive till it is right Thanks for the link Bok it does prove what it was:thumbs:

[meep]

I've been quietly popping back now and again to see if this "issue" has been cleared up, but still no joy....

For a project (like most) that requires accurate, up to date and most importantly reliable stats in order to keep people interested, this is alomost as bad as losing the stats altogether. From the skim reading on this and Stephen's own board, it is clear that this was not unfortunate but a monumentus cock up which is still showing no signs of being perfectly resolved.

I have sent in what I thought would be 5M or so of results before I realised what was going on but have no real way of knowing whether they will be lost, processed or forgotten.....

[Amaroque]

</rant>
It does suck big time.

Stephen should have had regular redundant backups for a project of this size.

And why tf didn't he just put the drive in the new server to do the file transfers? All MB's that I know of have at least one IDE connector. So the IDE to SATA argument plain is bullshit.
</end rant>

[LAURENU2]

Amaroque :Pokes:
I think you and your other members at TA should post your thoughts about this over at the DPAD forum.
I have and will continue to do so until this gets resolved:thumbs:

[Fozzie]

accepting new results without having the tables correct as at a certain date is suicide.

I am pretty pessimistic about this project recovering. I will be pretty :swear: off if my missing 20+ million doesn't materialise.

[birdman2584]

Ive always thought this project has done a shabby job as far as their crediting system goes. I guess thats one of the reasons I never put too many resources towards it. Good luck to all with their deserved credit :gangpunch

[Bok]

Looks like you've got your points Fozzie... Stephen has restored the missing points for everyone in the top50 by using my last backup...which is good and I applaud that.

Of course I wasn't in the top50 at that point, so I've still lost 7M or so. (Was at 15.3M and dumped at least 1.4M on the day it all crashed..

Don't think I'll be running the project again I'm afraid..

Bok

[Fozzie]

the people who are missing points from your stats.

If Stephen has had to bodge the stats it seems the restore of the "backup" didn't work.

Makes you wonder on the validity of the project as the majority of what wnet missing was the newer work. Condor has recently marched up the stats so has Jeff and you.

I think I'll dump my boxen and also look at hitting something else.

Anyone fancy OGR25?

[Condor]

I have to agree. I am not that interested in the stats per se and I think that projects who run them do so at their own convenience.
But when something like this happens the project suffers some credibility.
As participants there is little what we can do to ensure that our efforts are being utilized properly aside from looking at the stats.

I am going to dump what I have and start a slow migration over the OGR.

[Bok]

Cool, good to see OGR getting pushed..

I'm going to stick with BOINC Rieselsieve. I like the guys running the project who try to accomodate all the users and I think now that they are starting to roll out the llr app (linux to come soon) we'll start to see the remaining 69 primes dropping like flies..

Bok

[AETiglathPZ]

Bok said- "Of course I wasn't in the top50 at that point"

The thing is Bok, you were ready to overtake me too on both AEpocalypse and AETiglathPZ accounts before the great kaboom. Somehow I actually GAINED a few million points.

Rechenkraft.net passed 2CPU before the upgrade(?). While spying on there forums, seemed pretty excited about going up the ladder[1]!

It is possible Stephen found some missing WU that were not being credited to me but that seems a little weird as a theory to begin with.[2]

Probably the best solution is to take the "last-know-good-stats," either from the last result.txt or your sight and go with that. Any new points are lost. It's 3 weeks production, that sucks to loose it. But hey, everybody is assumed to suck equally. Or do a variation of it with the last know active crunchers(last 100 hours) gaining 1%[3] to there totals. That way a active user would be at 101%[3] of there last know total.


[1] There forum was in german, so it was kindoff hard to tell.

[2] Would imply the stats were FUBARed to begin with.

[3] I just inserted a arbitrary number here. Cound be +2% or +3%.

[AETiglathPZ]

Somehow double posted.

But these options would be the most efficient way to resolve the issue and fair(I guess).

[Bok]

Hi AE!

Long time..

True, think it's too late now and I'm not sure Stephen cares that much anyway..

Looking in the top 10, it seems Lauren gained nearly 70M and amdxborg gained 40M, now I know Lauren had a mighty dump lined up...was it this big ?

I'll check in with Johan to see if his gain was legit, but it just tells me that there are possibly multiple discrepancies out there.

I could probably do some analysis on my before and now database but it would be a bit of work.

Bok

[em99010pepe]

I'm going to stick with BOINC Rieselsieve. I like the guys running the project who try to accomodate all the users and I think now that they are starting to roll out the llr app (linux to come soon) we'll start to see the remaining 69 primes dropping like flies..

Bok

You can use the linux version of the LLRNET, you don't need to wait for the BOINC LLR application. Here you are:

http://stats.rieselsieve.com/download/llrnet.linux.tgz

Those primes won't drop as easily as you think....

Carlos

[LAURENU2]

Yes I did do about 1 /2 gig dump on D-Day and maybe 15 to 20 mil points since then
I have asked Stephen why I have produced about 2X the results of any other member could not give a good answer as to why.
I told him this has happened to me before on other DC projects like FAD. And When FAD rebuilt there D/B from a backup
I got a big boost in points.
Maybe the same thing here, or not and it is just all fudging:bang:

[Bok]

I figured your :dump: might be up there :thumbs:

Just hadn't realised quite how big it was!

[LAURENU2]

Ya took a long time too, all most 2 days to U/L it

[LAURENU2]

Stephen reopened a reclaim points thread in his forum:thumbs:
:Pokes: If you are missing point post there:Pokes:

[Bok]

Lauren,

can you post for me? I can't seem to get on his board and I've got to run out now for a short while anyway..

I was at 15,314,319 on last backup, and dumped at least 1.3M on the friday.

Thanks

Bok :cheers:

[LAURENU2]

OK:thumbs:

[LAURENU2]

Bok would you have a copy of a CSV file of names vs. total Mpts for the DPAD project?
With out that I think Stephen will have to do it by hand one by one

[Bok]

I've just restored a backup from 29th May and written a quick php script to create a csv scores of before and after.

And I emailed Stephen about it, you can post about it too on his forum if you like.

If it needs a different date for the second backup, that's simple enough..

DPAD csv (http://stats.free-dc.org/new/dpad.php)

Bok

[LAURENU2]

Your The Man Bok:thumbs:
:allhail:

[AETiglathPZ]

Once again Bok, you show your awesomeness

Your the Chuck Norris of DC computing* :)


* You can quote me on that in case you need to update your resume.

[CFS]

Once again Bok, you show your awesomeness

Your the Chuck Norris of DC computing* :)


* You can quote me on that in case you need to update your resume.
Your the Chuck Norris of DC computing* :):cheers: oyeah :thumbs:

[LAURENU2]

Stephen Brooks
2007-06-04 11:10:30 I've got the file and found 92 (!) other people who needed their stats back, besides the 7 I corrected earlier. It seems that none of their usernames begin later than "L" in the alphabet (apart from those who start with a symbol). We're now suspecting our office's NAS backup box has dodgy firmware (or the network), so some files were backed up with part of them made of zero(NUL) bytes.

The total lost was small on a project scale, but a significant fraction for each of these users, so I hope they'll forgive me for the inconvenience.

These changes should appear in the next stats update.

[LAURENU2]

Stephen Brooks
2007-06-04 11:24:47 Oh, thanks also to Bok for making the historical copies of the total points available!
_________Bok
:allhail:

[LAURENU2]

Here are the members who got restored:thumbs:
Thanks to Bok's professional habit's:hifi:

Jeff ========5,669,437
Bok ========5,578,345
justemazing=== 3,599,518
Jeff Gilchrist ===1,061,491
jkusuda ======831,927

[Bok]

:blush:

Good to have my points back, although I still lost my 1M+ dump I did on the day of the crash :( Never mind..

Bok :thumbs:

[LAURENU2]

Well we will see how it plays out :thumbs:
:umm: Remember good things take time:rock:
The most important thing is communication
:Pokes: I hope if anything Stephen learned that

[Jeff]

Thanks Lauren and Bok! :cheers:

[Amaroque]

Are you guys boycotting DPAD? I have some boxen to dump, then I'm not sure if I'm going to stay or not. The reason I'm asking, is because your team stats are way down for the day.

On another note, just cuz the stats are fubar'd, doesn't mean the research is. :umm:

[LAURENU2]

I think we are just waiting to see how things happen over there.
I still have it running but not U/L -ing on some nodes

I will turn some of my node to other things now that I took #1 over
:umm:Maybe let GOD hold it for a bit:rotfl: :lmao: :rotfl:

[Amaroque]

I wanted to dump earlier, but the stats snafu kept me holding back. I may just dump it, and move on.

I'm thinking about WCG.

[alpha]

On another note, just cuz the stats are fubar'd, doesn't mean the research is. :umm:

Alternatively, if Stephen is incompetent enough to repeatedly mess the stats up, who says the results are any more safe in his hands?

[Fozzie]

moved to OGR 25 so any and all are welcome over there for our climg into the top 10.

Lauren :Pokes: :Pokes:

[LAURENU2]

moved to OGR 25 so any and all are welcome over there for our climg into the top 10.

Lauren :Pokes: :Pokes:
I thought that project was to run out soon
If so might not be worth the effort to get it up here

[Bok]

I'd be happy for you to come and overtake me in Boinc Rieselsieve :Pokes:

Bok :thumbs:

[alpha]

OGRp2-25 should finish before the end of the year, but there is still plenty of time to climb into the top 10, especially with more firepower.

[LAURENU2]

OK I will start to migreat over :thumbs: I Have D/L the client but it was not clear how to join Free-DC Is that done in the instll of the client ?

[IronBits]

http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4236
:jester:

OK I will start to migreat over :thumbs: I Have D/L the client but it was not clear how to join Free-DC Is that done in the instll of the client ? Off topic OGR thread moved to here: http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12426

[LAURENU2]

Stats are starting to go backward again:swear:
subtracting instead of Adding

[Digital Parasite]

A dumped a bit last week but there should be a lot more showing up.... :(

[magnav0x]

Stats are starting to go backward again:swear:
subtracting instead of Adding

OGR stats are still adding :thumbs:

[LAURENU2]

OGR stats are still adding :thumbs:

Yes OGR seems vary stable the same pointage every day Never had that on a DC project before

:umm: It was DPAD that had the problem with Adding points

[magnav0x]

It was DPAD that had the problem with Adding points

Yes I'm aware of that. I've made attempts of running DPAD many times in the past. Stats lossage is something you come to expect from DPAD after a while. It happens at least once a year. Granted it's usually not this bad, but it's enough for me to never look back. What a shame too, DPAD was my fav dc project for the longest time.

[LAURENU2]

Dpad stats seem to be on hold:Pokes:

And Shish are you listed as " shish[FREE-DC] =and= Shish[FREE-DC.org] " ?
If So go Here and reply to the thread:rock:
http://stephenbrooks.org/forum/?thread=1260&bork=zcgcwzevuh