Google 'starting from scratch'

[LAURENU2]

Google 'starting from scratch' with own browser, Chrome


http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10029914-2.html?tag=nl.e703

[IronBits]

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/09/03/0247205.shtml

"By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services."

Think I'll stick to FireFox myself where I can control the horizontal and vertical, and adblock and script blocking :)

[Paratima]

I've been playing with it for a day and I go along with IB. It SERIOUSLY needs AdBlock! I've been spoiled - forgot all the advertising that gets slathered on my favorite sites (Free-DC excepted, of course). I run half a dozen plugins on Firefox to make life simpler & safer.

On the plus side, it neatly picked up all my preferences from Firefox and even automatically installed my signing certificate. And I like the "front page" concept.

However, it definitely needs help. I'll probably keep it around to see how it evolves, but it's not ready for prime time, IMHO. Guess that's why they use the word "beta". :corn:

[Bok]

Agreed. Standards wise it seems fairly compliant, no complaints there. Lack of add-ons right now stops me using it though..

Bok

[Digital Parasite]

Agreed. Standards wise it seems fairly compliant, no complaints there. Lack of add-ons right now stops me using it though..

Yeah, I like the design where every tab is a process and the task manager and the incognito mode. Javascript is smoking fast. Like you said, lack of add-ons is a big issue (I need my mouse gestures). They will probably make a dent in the market share of all the browsers soon, especially with Google's marketing reach and bundling.

[IronBits]

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080903-google-on-chrome-eula-controversy-our-bad-well-change-it.html


Google's new web browser Chrome is fast, shiny, and requires users to sign their very lives over to Google before they can use it. Today's Internet outrage du jour has been Chrome's EULA, which appears to give Google a nonexclusive right to display and distribute every bit of content transmitted through the browser. Now, Google tells Ars that it's a mistake, the EULA will be corrected, and the correction will be retroactive.

I'm still sticking with FireFox :)

[IronBits]

http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2008/09/03/new-firefox-javascript-engine-is-faster-than-chromes-v8

Although Chrome's performance beats the current stable version of Firefox, benchmarks show that Mozilla's next-generation JavaScript engine actually outperforms V8.

Still sticking with FireFox :)

[Paratima]

What exactly, Mr. Bits, is it that you're trying to say here? :Pokes:

[LAURENU2]

What exactly, Mr. Bits, is it that you're trying to say here? :Pokes:


Just the facts
And that
He's still sticking with FireFox

[IronBits]

What exactly, Mr. Bits, is it that you're trying to say here? :Pokes: Unless some other browser comes along that is better/faster with the right add-ons to remove all the stupid ads, flash crap and other annoying things that webmasters think are cool...
I'm sticking with Firefox :)

[Paratima]

Oh! So...

You're sticking with Firefox, then, is that it? :jester:

[LAURENU2]

Oh! So...

You're sticking with Firefox, then, is that it? :jester:


Paratima:bonk:

[IronBits]

What a marvelous idea Paratima! :rock:


Oh! So...

You're sticking with Firefox, then, is that it? :jester:

[gopher_yarrowzoo]

Unless some other browser comes along that is better/faster with the right add-ons to remove all the stupid ads, flash crap and other annoying things that webmasters think are cool...
I'm sticking with Firefox :)


Oh! So...

You're sticking with Firefox, then, is that it? :jester:

Soooooo let me get this right, Mr Bits is sticking with Firefox right?
<goes to kick FF3 hard since it basically don't work on here>

[IronBits]

Works for me everywhere, except when the webmasters decide to use a stupid flash driven menu system, which I don't visit again. ;)

[the-mk]

whatever IB says, I'm sticking with Firefox 3 too :D

[jasong]

Works for me everywhere, except when the webmasters decide to use a stupid flash driven menu system, which I don't visit again. ;)
Ah, so others have that problem to? That's about the only thing that causes me trouble with Firefox 3. I prefer to blame Microsoft for everything. Even if they're not at fault, they've probably committed some other unknown crime they deserve to be punished for, so it all works out. :D

[Paratima]

What a marvelous idea Paratima! :rock:

Just wanted to be really, absolutely, 100% sure. :blues:

[LAURENU2]

Just wanted to be really, absolutely, 100% sure. :blues:
And I still use IE 6.0 haha And I don't even have popup turned on :lmao:
:umm:I still use it because I hate frames

[Paratima]

Frames suck mightily. Don't know who had the idea for frames, but they should have just said, "Naw, let's do something else."

[gopher_yarrowzoo]

It was back in the day when DIV wasn't really supported or you had to write it as <div> or <layer> and have double the code to manipulate it with.
I mean frames are FINE as long as you actually either make them invisible or make them a semi-feature out of them by tarting them up with some styles..
and as for "Flash" menu's sorry I have one on my own site, was a javascripted one but dues to freaking browser "issues" i gave up, and I don't even try to get stuff to work with opera as I gave up with that too as it didn't do someone I wanted it to - dynamic background didn't work :|...

[Paratima]

Too funny and too true! LINKY (http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080906) :D

[gopher_yarrowzoo]

Yeah but I've heard the scary things - like yeah "no personal tracking" that's a myth with this browser - we all know what google is like with certain things...

[LAURENU2]

Too funny and too true! LINKY (http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080906) :D

Succubus Mmmmm I did not know you Geeks were soooo Passionate about your Browsers :fireboun: Do your Wifes :wife: Know about this :slap:

But I guess I can see your side
We Plumber's are Passionate about our Rods :rock: <---:lmao:


The above may or may not be the views of Free-DC But it does not matter as this is all a Joke :blush:

[LAURENU2]

Yeah but I've heard the scary things - like yeah "no personal tracking" that's a myth with this browser - we all know what google is like with certain things...
Can not your steeps be be tracked just by your IP address ?

:umm:Given a Cort order

[gopher_yarrowzoo]

Not really unless they can prove it's just 1 PC behind that 1 IP, multiple PC would leave multiple trails and no way of proving which pages belong to which trail etc they need slightly more id than an IP thus why some people use a proxy service, the generated S/N of your HDD is fairly unique as are a few other things hidden away but these are hidden and not easy to get at really.

[LAURENU2]

Does your MAC or physical address work to track you at all ?

This will conclude IP 101 :rock:

[Digital Parasite]

Does your MAC or physical address work to track you at all ?


Your ISP can see your MAC address depending on what kind of Internet service you have, but websites would not see your MAC address, just an IP.

My ISP rarely changes IP addresses for me so I can be fairly easily tracked by that.

[Digital Parasite]

Yeah but I've heard the scary things - like yeah "no personal tracking" that's a myth with this browser - we all know what google is like with certain things...

You need this software (Chrome Anonymizer):
http://blog.gjl-network.net/blog/index.php?archives/166-English.html&serendipity[lang_selected]=en

Apparently there is a unique ID with each Chrome install but this will remove it.

[Paratima]

Thanks, DP. :thumbs:

[IronBits]

Just don't use Chrome :) Stick with Firefox :D

[Digital Parasite]

Just don't use Chrome :) Stick with Firefox :D

I'm sticking with FireFox for now. Anyone who likes Chrome's Incognito mode can download this plugin for FireFox to get a similar effect:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1306

or this one which doesn't wipe out your current history:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1559

[alpha]

Regarding the tight EULA which IronBits mentioned, Google revised it very quickly (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/03/google_chrome_eula_sucks/) after all the online discussion.



Update - Google amends Chrome EULA

(Updated 4 Sep '08 0830 GMT) Google has amended section 11.1 of the Chrome EULA so that it now reads:
11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights that you already hold in Content that you submit, post or display on or through the Services.There are now no other sub-sections in section 11. What you see is what you get. Terrific. Google acted with alacrity. Great stuff. No worries.

Just make sure you opt-out of reporting anonymous statistics to Google.

[Death]

well chrome is ideal for gmail. it far faster in mailbox even than ff.

also few words about ADS - try admuncher.com - it only 200k installation, but you can control all your traffic, cut off ads, nasty images, webbugs, ie windows without scroll or menu, and a lot of other things. just try it and you will love it forever. it saves me around 1Gb in a month removing ads )))))0.