Project of the Month [Archive]

gopher_yarrowzoo

02-04-2009, 11:15 AM

Okay shamelessly borrowed from another Team forum site, It seems such a good idea I thought we'd borrow it :cheers: to Team Seti.USA :thumbs: good idea lads don't mind if we borrow it do ya?

I looked at this and thougt about it, the more I thought about it the more I realised It could be fun, a monthly thing, different project each month, open to suggests on where we need power diverting so that we could as a team crunch that project, if we wanted too, but no pressure at all just a nice way to boost our numbers in a project, can be BOINC or non-BOINC doesn't matter just putting this one out there for you guys to comment on..
I know Seti.USA are doing NQueens just now and have done others like ORG-25/ 26 in the past...

Need a fun guantlet like thing, I mean we all enjoy those kinds of things don't we I remember we back when a certain :fozzie: bear would give "running" commentry on a gauntlet we were running..

So yes / no, and project ideas..

alpha

02-04-2009, 11:50 AM

There are a lot of projects where we're ranked very averagely (between 20th-40th or worse). These really need improving upon, but in some cases the amount of work required is substantial. My pick: Einstein@home. It's a long running project which is stable as hell and we're ranked #134. I'll probably be moving a few there either way, once I reach some milestones on Rosie.

Anyway, the concept seems like a good idea but I don't usually have the attention span to run a project for a whole month, unless it is one of my favourites. Maybe if we come up with some preliminary goals (for the team, or even per-user) at the beginning of each month, it would make it more interesting. That way you spend the month doing all you can to reach that target.

Bok

02-04-2009, 01:37 PM

Anandtech do something similar where they try to push a (BOINC) project or 2 up to 1M for the team... increases the numbers on this page (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=mmakers&subproj=team1m) where we are lagging a bit..

alpha

02-04-2009, 02:05 PM

I like that idea Bok, and it looks like a few aren't that far off already: Enigma@Home, Malaria Control Project and Poem@Home. :)

It would be handy if that page were sortable by the score column..

Bok

02-04-2009, 02:14 PM

I thought that when I looked at it :)

Not easy when it's boinc and nonboinc projects though as it's across tables.. Might need to do a separate BOINC only one..

Bok

02-04-2009, 02:54 PM

Working on it... :)

Bok

02-04-2009, 04:00 PM

ok, not quite finished, but good enough to show...

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=teambycpid&team=Free-DC

I've actually linked this page from the Boinc combined teams page (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=boincteams) as it makes more sense from there anyway. I made the link on this page go to teammain..

Bok

IronBits

02-04-2009, 05:11 PM

If I'm reading you all correctly...
To make it more useful, how about sorting by our worst standings first, so maybe we could all start jumping on the projects where we have done the least and suck the most ;)

I also like the project of the month idea to :thumbs:

gopher_yarrowzoo

02-04-2009, 05:20 PM

Moogie

02-04-2009, 06:28 PM

Good lord gentleman, you want me to CHANGE projects? Heh...well that would be a good way to learn about all of this I guess. I'm just getting used to Nqueens and Aqua...what will come next? :)

Petey

02-04-2009, 07:08 PM

I think it is a great idea. Running a single project for a whole month might not suit everyone but setting a team target and everyone contributing what they can to meet that target would be fun.

We could ask folk to vote or, simply use the current standing on Bok's stats to pick the targets.

remember we back when a certain :fozzie: bear would give "running" commentry on a gauntlet we were running.

I bet Fozzie would come out of retirement for this.

IronBits

02-04-2009, 09:15 PM

Well, there is always this train of thought...
Those of us that have lots of cores, can move freely around, whilst those that have picked a favorite project with very few cores can always hold the fort down till we get back. :)

gopher_yarrowzoo

02-05-2009, 04:20 AM

That's a good idea, yeah those with not much firepower like me, I got 3-4 cores out there can hold down the fort in projects while the farmers go plough us a new milestone / position or 5...
I may do the "commentry" you never know..

Death

02-05-2009, 07:47 AM

how about to take in attention project usefulness?

nqueens is a fun but for me this kind of projects is a "fill the raid". okey, they got 1tb of queens position in a 27 3d table. so what?

I prefer to crunch something like alzheimer project just to have hope to be enough sane in a 2100 year, so I can crunch 30 nqueens board on my mobile phone (samsnokia N996 -16 THz) in a hour.

Bok

02-05-2009, 11:42 AM

I see IronBits has jumped on to help me out at VTU@Home (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=team&proj=vtu&team=25)

Decent scoring and seems to be a lot of work right now.. I've racked up 25K in the last 2 or 3 days easily... :)

alpha

02-05-2009, 02:43 PM

It sounds like (http://boinc.vtu.lt/vtuathome/forum_thread.php?id=4) a controversial project to me.

BTW, the score-sorted stats page is great, thanks Bok. :thumbs:

Bok

02-05-2009, 03:13 PM

cool. Just added graphs. Also, I contacted David Anderson and showed him and requested we have links on the standard BOINC server team pages to link here and he agreed and is putting it in :)

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=30270

already done at Seti!

IronBits

02-05-2009, 10:28 PM

Controversial or not, whether you want to crunch for a project or not, here is my idea.
To present a list of all projects available, Boinc or otherwise, with the project rank for our team shown, so we can keep an eye on where we are in relation to other teams.
If we have a project rank of 0 (zero) then we don't have a team created yet on that project. (so we can see we need to create one asap)
If you want to whack away at number 10 on the list because you like it, then get busy. ;)
But first, we have to have the list...
At least the following columns would be necessary
Project Name (with hyperlink to join page) - Boinc Y/N - Free-DC Project Rank (sortable up/down)
Anyone else have any suggestions on what else we would need to display? (should try to keep it minimal for clarity sake)
I used to have a Rank panel many years ago, which is still in use on other sites...
It listed
Project Name - Project Rank
There was no early warning system in place to tell if someone was ramping up to pass us.
If threats can be put into the list via a colored block, that would be cool.
RED for danger, Yellow for pay attention, Green, smooth sailing :)
I would consider the colored threat box an enhancement tho ;)

Second thought
Being that the projects have been broken down into science, math, misc etc. perhaps we could have multiple small rank panels all shown on the same page somehow, each one sortable.

This way you could choose which type of project you wanted, say health projects as an example, sort it to see where we need the most help, and jump in. :cheers:

IronBits

02-05-2009, 10:38 PM

Looking at the table Bok made, and sorting it, I see we are way behind in Seti.
ya ya ya, LGM...
I've turned on all my GPUs to Seti to see what happens. They weren't being used for anything else, and they don't take much time away from the other real work being done by the CPUs.

I don't necessarily care about the milestones to much, but the graphs are SCHWEET! :thumbs:

IronBits

02-05-2009, 10:46 PM

The following projects are either dead, or something is not correct someplace...

12121 Search 1d, 14h, 58m and 7s ago
Gerasim@Home 2d, 5h, 57m and s ago
Riesel Base 5 Sieve 4d, 21h, 48m and 36s ago
Sierpinski Base5 Sieve 6d, h, 2m and 7s ago
Ramsey@Home 7d, 8h, 53m and 37s ago
2721 Search 9d, 15h, 15m and 9s ago
EAPS@HOME 17d, h, 11m and 25s ago
Cels@Home(old) 23d, 5h, 24m and 8s ago
Second Computing 24d, 4h, 11m and 3s ago
ABC@Home Beta 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
Cels@Home Test2 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
TANPAKU 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
Distributed Rainbow Table Generator 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
RieselSieve LLR 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
RieselSieve BOINC 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
Neuron 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
RieselSieve Sieving 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
XtremeLab 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
SciLink 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
Eternity@Home 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
BeWeS MouseTracker 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
Distributed Exact Cover Solver (DECS) 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

CaptainMooseInc

02-05-2009, 11:36 PM

Hrmmm...well where am I needed as of right now?

It's plenty cold here in Indiana so I decided to fire up the Dual Xeon again for crunching. I'd kinda forgotten about DCing for a bit. Oops. Prolly gonna have to turn her down in the spring though or else she'll keep my AC running nearly constantly in this little apartment.

Currently, I just decided to go with OGR-26 and seem to be pushing out okay numbers for my one little boxen. :)

Anything out there (non-BOINC) that's easy to setup and runs great on Intels?

-Moose

P.S. Yes, I know the box is old, but it still runs fast for me and I've not been such a hardcore hardware addict as of recent. For now, it'll do. :)

CaptainMooseInc

02-05-2009, 11:40 PM

P.S.S. What's this about GPU computation? Can I use my GeForce FX 5500 now on certain projects? Or is it only for the newer cards that are just ungodly yummy?

IronBits

02-06-2009, 12:11 AM

:cheers: Welcome back! :cheers:

CUDA starts at 8xxx series cards I'm afraid :cry:
Good news is, the 8xxx + video cards can be had for around $100 and truly kick butt :D

OGR is good! :thumbs:

LAURENU2

02-06-2009, 12:56 AM

CaptainMooseInc :hiya: haven't seen you in 3 blue moons Glad to see ya back here

Well I am going to start to migrate to Magnetism@home and vtu@home
I feel we can jump :roadkill:a few seats in a vary short time there.
Even perhaps by the time we can decide on a game plan here

CaptainMooseInc

02-06-2009, 02:01 AM

Bah, sounds like I really need to get back in the loop but I just don't have the desire like I used to. Oh well. I'll stick with OGR-26 until it's completed or gets too warm to run my little beasty anymore. I miss the hum of my IWT's running at max speed. :)

IronBits

02-06-2009, 02:10 AM

Maybe you could go over and smack JTrinkle and wake him up :)

gopher_yarrowzoo

02-06-2009, 04:27 AM

Hey Moose, Long time, you've been away so long we've had 2 stats revisions :P
Go have a look at the new shiny and well polished (most of the time) stats.

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=index

IB - I think some of those are dead and I'll look into them later on and "fire" the ones that are dead into the archieve, some may just be sleeping / not exporting stats but If I get a "DOA" website then in the achieve it shall go.

That table should be doable as for "sci" "bio" "math" if that's stored somewhere then yes it should be possible as well and the "threat" / "stomp" table maybe possible I don't know I know we can do it for individual projects so in theory it should be possible as long as it's all indexed properly..
It's pretty much doable as long as the information is in the DB and can be extracted without loading up the stats server too much :thumbs:

Oh yeah
* Hands Moose a bat to "waken up" JTinkle with * :catfight:

Death

02-06-2009, 06:01 AM

CaptainMoose, you won't stuck with OGR for long ))) Two weeks to the end )))

Death

02-06-2009, 06:09 AM

12121 Search 1d, 14h, 58m and 7s ago

121*2^n+1 search. just llr it. wu consist from 20 numbers to crunch. 2-3 weeks for avg athlon. no teams, but I use Death [Ukraine], so BoK can add team to stats.

Gerasim@Home 2d, 5h, 57m and s ago

they test boinc. now offline, but some time ago they search some primes.
dunno when they go up.

Riesel Base 5 Sieve 4d, 21h, 48m and 36s ago
Sierpinski Base5 Sieve 6d, h, 2m and 7s ago

sr5.psp-project.de k*5^n+1 search.

Ramsey@Home 7d, 8h, 53m and 37s ago

up and down sometime.

2721 Search 9d, 15h, 15m and 9s ago

27*2^n+1 search. just llr it. wu consist from 20 numbers to crunch. 2-3 weeks for avg athlon. no teams, but I use Death [Ukraine], so BoK can add team to stats.

EAPS@HOME 17d, h, 11m and 25s ago

dead

Cels@Home(old) 23d, 5h, 24m and 8s ago

test project for cels. now down

Second Computing 24d, 4h, 11m and 3s ago

damn stupd website, usually no wu's

ABC@Home Beta 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

abc now reached it's goal, and they want to implement new algorithm, so thay probably will test it at their beta place. url is different from abc, now down, when they start to test new program it will go up, PROBABLY as they say at offorum.

Cels@Home Test2 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

test project for cels. now down

TANPAKU 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

DEAD

Distributed Rainbow Table Generator 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

DEAD

RieselSieve LLR 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
RieselSieve BOINC 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

seems to be dead, such a strange story with disappeared admin.

Neuron 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

dead

RieselSieve Sieving 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago
XtremeLab 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

dunno. xtreme lab is a grid infrastructure like boinc.

SciLink 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

dead

Eternity@Home 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

dead

BeWeS MouseTracker 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

keylogger.

Distributed Exact Cover Solver (DECS) 34d, 22h, 59m and 59s ago

dead

gopher_yarrowzoo

02-06-2009, 06:55 AM

Death Thanks I did look at a few of them and was going to post the results in full but you've saved me the trouble...
TANK... was a HDD failure (at least that's how it translated from Kenji.)

LAURENU2

02-06-2009, 10:15 PM

IronBits

02-06-2009, 10:26 PM

That should be just enough.
Watch the swap file to make sure you don't get HDD thrashing.
Good to know. Holy Carp Batman!

CaptainMooseInc

02-06-2009, 10:33 PM

@Death:

Why did OGR-25 take sooooo long to complete, yet OGR-26 seems like it's just getting annihilated? Not going as in depth? Any word if there will be future OGR endeavors or will RC572 will be the last one standing?

IronBits

02-06-2009, 10:51 PM

They are already working on the next OGR...
You can read the .plans, which are interesting sometimes...
http://n0cgi.distributed.net/cgi/dnet-finger.cgi

Mike Reed says

We are proud to announce that we have now completed 75% of the work necessary
to prove OGR-26 is optimal. The project is expected to complete within the next
few weeks, and we have already started preparations towards that project's
successor. More details will be provided in the near future.

IronBits

02-07-2009, 12:02 AM

I gotta find me a project that updates their stats more than once every 24hrs :bang:

alpha

02-07-2009, 01:14 AM

Just a warning Magnetism@home SUCKS up memory
Looks like about 300 to 350 MB per client
Makes it hard to run on a Quad with a 32 bit OS with it's mem limit
With 2 gigs mem and 4 clients running I'm left with ONLY 150 MB on mem total
OUCH

I've seen Rosetta use that much per core, also. Oh, and 2GB isn't a RAM limit on a 32-bit operating system.

IronBits

02-07-2009, 01:17 AM

Ya, you can put 4gb of ram in a computer running a 32-bit OS and it will see ~3GB ;)

LAURENU2

02-07-2009, 03:19 AM

I've seen Rosetta use that much per core, also. Oh, and 2GB isn't a RAM limit on a 32-bit operating system.
Ya I know thats one of the reason I don't run Rose any more

3 Gig limit ya I know it is 3 but I seems a waste to install 4 to get 3
I am going to try a 50/50 with Magnetism@home and vtu@home
that should help
look for a big boost in vtu@home tomorrow :roadkill:almost have the change over complete

LAURENU2

02-07-2009, 11:33 AM

look for a big boost in vtu@home tomorrow :roadkill:almost have the change over complete

I guess It would help if I joined Free-DC:rotfl:

Bok

02-07-2009, 11:53 AM

Still don't see you..... :Hugger:

LAURENU2

02-07-2009, 03:16 PM

Still don't see you..... :Hugger:
I'm right under IB in output #2 http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=proj&proj=vtu

Next update I will Be #1 in output in vtu@home :smoking:
I update my accounts to show Free-DC as my/:hugging:/ our team in vtu@home and Magnetism@home
Should show up next update :thumbs:

LAURENU2

02-08-2009, 12:52 PM

Still don't see you..... :Hugger:
Now do you see me Bok :weggy: I'm right behind you
And we Pushed into 6th place :cheers:
At this speed :beep:we will take 1st in less then 2 weeks :dance::music::fridge:
Might even make it in one week if I go to full burn for a week
:train::train::train:

Anybody else want to PUSH here till we decide what Free-DC as a whole wants to give a PUSH in

Bok

02-08-2009, 01:42 PM

See you, see you,... I'm scrabbling out the way right now as the :train: comes flying by :)

Moogie

02-08-2009, 07:22 PM

Should I try VTU@home? Does that mean I should stop Aqua and Nqueens?

Sorry...still learning and soaking up info.

:frog:

LAURENU2

02-08-2009, 09:35 PM

Should I try VTU@home? Does that mean I should stop Aqua and Nqueens?

Sorry...still learning and soaking up info.

:frog:
Only if you really want to :thumbs: I'm :flame: the project and teams are drooping :roadkill:

:umm: Have we thought about a Direction for OUR Team any more
:Pokes: Refined the LIST any more ?
What say WE :Hugger:

Moogie

02-08-2009, 09:46 PM

But I only have a couple of computers going on my side right now. Wouldn't that slow things down a bit?

IronBits

02-08-2009, 11:10 PM

VTU has fast wus. The more projects you sign up for at the same time, the slower each project will get.
Having two running at the same time ensures that if one runs out of work or something happens to the project server, the other one can keep on chugging along, keeping your computer busy.
Pick one or two projects per computer and let it run.
You get to choose what you want to run. :)
If you want to switch to another project, and you are already running two projects, you can add a third to see how it goes...
Add/remove at will ;)

LAURENU2

02-08-2009, 11:43 PM

Yes But VTU@home seems to want to hog the clients time from longer running WU's

IronBits

02-09-2009, 01:00 AM

It's a delicate balancing act to figure out which clients work best with others.
Fast or slow, big or small... I just load em up and walk away. :)

gopher_yarrowzoo

02-09-2009, 04:59 AM

Lauren - that is what the "shares" are all about you give the ones you want to boost more a bigger "share"
i.e 3 projects
NQueens, VTU, Rosetta say
NQueens - 500 , VTU -150 Rosetta -350 would give
NQueens half the available time, VTU would get 15% and Rosetta the other 35% of the time, in theory!

Fozzie

02-09-2009, 08:02 AM

BOINC stuff for a while as i am concentrating on F@H and SoB.

I have a few targets in both of these still to get but might have abash at something new for a while.

How long are we staying with VTU and is it the project for March?

Fozzie

02-12-2009, 08:05 AM

and VTU@Home is running, so i should show up next stat update.

What's the target?

Moogie

02-12-2009, 04:57 PM

How do you get started in VTU...didn't see any info on it here??

Bok

02-12-2009, 05:01 PM

It's down right now, but when it does come back up you would just put in http://boinc.vtu.lt/vtuathome/ into the url when using boinc_manager to create an account..

Bok

Moogie

02-12-2009, 05:03 PM

Well that explains why I got an error msg when I went there. I thought there might have been another link. Thanks!

LAURENU2

02-12-2009, 06:13 PM

It's down right now, but when it does come back up you would just put in http://boinc.vtu.lt/vtuathome/ into the url when using boinc_manager to create an account..

Bok
I think your wrong on the link Bok:Pokes: You gave the one listed in the stats
it works but gives a error in the boinc log
The Right link is http://boinc.vgtu.lt/vtuathome/

Bok

02-12-2009, 06:26 PM

nod, they both resolve to the same place I believe. BOINC gives a warning when running the first one but it works just fine..

IronBits

02-13-2009, 02:32 AM

So, are we ever going to commit to a single project for at least a week?

LAURENU2

02-13-2009, 03:20 AM

Yes I was just wondering the same thing I'm bouncing back and fort till we Come up with a direction to go in

IronBits

02-13-2009, 04:01 AM

Did a quick look around... how about we have a go at

Spinhenge@Home (http://spin.fh-bielefeld.de/)

We are way behind on this project.

With your participation you actively support the research of nano-magnetic molecules.
In the future these molecules will be used in the local tumor chemotherapy and to develop tiny memory-modules.

:|party|:

pfb

02-13-2009, 08:51 AM

I'd be in for this once things are decided...prob would be 100% on the project but I'd put a bulk of it towards a project if it was for a month; doing it for a week prob would be a bit of hassle :p

LAURENU2

02-13-2009, 09:12 AM

Did a quick look around... how about we have a go at

Spinhenge@Home (http://spin.fh-bielefeld.de/)

We are way behind on this project.

:|party|:
How are there WU's long short do they auto save

Petey

02-13-2009, 09:26 AM

Workunits tend to run 45-60 mins each and they do checkpoint.

Running on Linux is a little messy (you need the MESA or GLUT libraries for some reason) and they seem to take 30% longer to complete.

Other than that, Spinhenge is a good project that might just have enough work to keep Lauren and IB busy at the same time.

IronBits

02-13-2009, 09:38 AM

I'm all in for a solid Month run :D

gopher_yarrowzoo

02-13-2009, 09:41 AM

I'll hold place on NQueens then and move the power I have on Rosetta to this one, maybe give it a bit more power..

pfb

02-13-2009, 09:43 AM

Guessing SpinHenge it is then :p

IronBits

02-13-2009, 10:04 AM

Workunits tend to run 45-60 mins each and they do checkpoint.

Takes me *cough* 33 mins. *cough* to spit out a work unit. ;)

:music1:

Start: Feb. Friday the 13th, 2009.
End: March 14th, 2009

Petey

02-13-2009, 11:25 AM

Takes me *cough* 33 mins. *cough* to spit out a work unit. ;)

Why am I NOT surprised :rock:

CaptainMooseInc

02-16-2009, 11:32 PM

In the interest of team spirit I installed BOINC *gack* and linked up to Spinhenge@home.

I've neeeevvverrrr run BOINC before and I have one of those archaic Dual Xeons still. At first I thought the program wasn't going to run multiple instances, but then I realized that it had only downloaded 1 WU so far. :-p

Now I have 11 WUs downloaded (it did it on its own).

44% in 24 mins for the first WU. We'll see how it's doing tomorrow with all 4 processors (2 physical, 2 virtual) running.

Just out of curiosity, do I put my e-mail or project ID number in the statstool to get it to bring up my stats once I return a WU?

LAURENU2

02-17-2009, 12:44 AM

the project ID number 5 Digits I think

IronBits

02-17-2009, 01:06 AM

When you show up in the stats, you will see up in the address bar, something like this.
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=user&proj=spi&name=65912
Where it is bolded, that is your ID (Lauren's in this example)
Copy that ID number after the = sign, and paste it into statstool and your done. :)

gopher_yarrowzoo

02-17-2009, 07:45 AM

Also to put it in your signature remember to put a check in the box next where you've put your User ID....

LAURENU2

02-25-2009, 09:49 PM

:umm:Do We Have ANY Thoughts About What Will Be Next :welcome:
:evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil:

Bok

02-25-2009, 10:30 PM

I've got some thoughts.... :)

Spinhenge was a bust for me as it's a PIA to get working on non X 64 bit linux which my main systems are..

Personally I'd like to see us push 2-3 projects up to the 1M mark..

Enigma is almost there, so perhaps push Magnetism@Home, SuperLink (if work is available) and MindModelling ? Any others too. Burp has quite a bit of work right now as I'm going for my 100K there but it's windows or 32bit linux only..

outlnder

02-25-2009, 11:45 PM

BURP isn't taking new accounts.

LAURENU2

02-26-2009, 12:19 AM

CaptainMooseInc

02-26-2009, 12:49 AM

I'm down for anything inside BOINC now. I've got access to a few computers that aren't mine (friends') that I've got BOINC on now. They won't mind what's going on as long as I'm not adding new software every month. A simple switch in projects isn't too hard to do.

I have no clue really what's what in various projects anymore. You guys point me in the right direction and I shall follow. Personally though, I love stats. So, Lauren's idea to push and take #1 in VTU sounds :rock:.

IronBits

02-26-2009, 12:57 AM

I'll go with what the majority wants to run.
Please keep in mind, there are 32bit apps vs 64bit apps
Windows apps vs linux apps vs other OS apps
I run predominately Windows Vista 64, 1 Windows XP Pro 64bit, 1 Windows XP Pro 32bit
I also have 2 Linux 64 rigs

CaptainMooseInc

02-26-2009, 01:01 AM

gopher_yarrowzoo

02-26-2009, 08:04 AM

No idea jeff but if you've got remote PC's go to boincstats and use the Boinc Account Manager (BAM) if your not already make 1 profile and use it for all the pc's link all the PC's to that and they will all do the same projects and you can "delay detach" i.e complete work you've got then detach and it let's you create project accounts from there simple few clicks only need to go to the some of the sites (probably all actually) and find the Free-DC team and join it.

Yeah Next PoTM hmm i'm easy as long as it's boinc, easier for me to switch.

Bok

02-26-2009, 08:41 AM

Just a quick note, did anyone notice that BOINC 6.4.6 was released for Windows? I noticed that when I installed it on my other machine tonight that it wouldn't let me force update the WUs. It seems to allow the project to determine if you can use any of those commands under the Projects tab. I'm not sure what the release contains in terms of upgrades or bugfixes, but it's out.

Actually 6.6.11 is released and seems to be pretty stable now :)

No issues like the rest of the 6.6.x series with running up huge long term debts. And you can erase all long term debts in one fell swoop using a cc_config.xml file.

here (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D)

Bok

(http://boinc.berkeley.du/dl/?C=M;O=D)

pfb

02-26-2009, 11:55 AM

I am still on MindModelling But as you know the work comes in spurt:hair:
When this PUSH is over I will port more power back there.
And Magnetism@Home is a mem sucker not good for all users:cry:
What about Leiden Classical we are 23rd there :Pokes:
Or VTU@Home WE Could Take 1st:rock:

I have issues with VTU (in that it was leaving orphan .EXEs running and on one PC had 20 trying to run :looney: ); other than that as long as it can run well on x86 and x64 Windows and x64 Linux (and has a BAM entry :p) I'll be along for the fun ;)

Petey

02-26-2009, 06:35 PM

It is going to be tricky to find another single project that has enough regular work to keep Lauren and IB busy for a whole month! :D

Maybe we can 'park' on 3 or 4 projects and use BONK to swap between as necessary?

How about:
- SIMAP (only has a few days work at the start of the month)
- Leiden (steady as a rock but not enough work to keep us busy all month)
- MindModeling (still Beta and temperamental but strangely fun)
- VTU (never run it but being #1 would be cool)

Bok

02-26-2009, 06:59 PM

Magnetism seems to have a smaller memory footprint these days. Still about 300mb per core though.

Lots of work..

LAURENU2

02-27-2009, 12:14 AM

Magnetism seems to have a smaller memory footprint these days. Still about 300mb per core though.

Lots of work..
I Just looked at the ones running here
On a 2 core with 1 Gig of ram and 2 clients running I am left with only 44 MB of Ram
Taskmaster reports them as using 344.5 MB of ram each
It is allot, But do-able on a dedicated cruncher :hugging:

CaptainMooseInc

02-27-2009, 12:32 AM

Hrmmm....

Why would BOINC put 6.4.6 under the main page but have a 6.6.11 version available for download too? Only a release candidate and not a stable version?

IronBits

02-27-2009, 12:39 AM

I'll throw down on Magnetism - is that going to be the primary?
And when does this one start?

alpha

02-27-2009, 02:09 AM

If you're worried about finding a project with enough work, I don't think I've ever not been able to get work on Rosetta (apart from during downtime). That said, I don't think we'd make much of an impression there even in a whole month.

POEM@home is nice and stable with loads of work usually.

Petey

02-27-2009, 03:36 AM

What do we think of World Community Grid?

Their 'Help Conquer Cancer' project has work until 2013 and each workunit takes 4-6 hours depending on your CPU.

We are currently languishing in 181th place :eek:

gopher_yarrowzoo

02-27-2009, 04:21 AM

WCG - doable
VTU - doable
Mag - doable
Poem - doable, sounds quirky but hey what the heck..

the new month starts on the 14th of March since we started this one on Feb 14th.

IronBits

02-27-2009, 06:18 AM

How about Folding@Home for GPUs at the same time?
I run Boinc on the project of the month, then, Folding@home for GPUs as a second project because it uses very little cpu time.

gopher_yarrowzoo

02-27-2009, 06:41 AM

Sure could do that since I think my GPU will work with F@H not sure :p

pfb

02-27-2009, 08:40 AM

I Just looked at the ones running here
On a 2 core with 1 Gig of ram and 2 clients running I am left with only 44 MB of Ram
Taskmaster reports them as using 344.5 MB of ram each
It is allot, But do-able on a dedicated cruncher :hugging:

Too much for me really - prefer the smaller memory projects :p

Poem and WCG are good for me :)

Bok

02-27-2009, 08:49 AM

Hrmmm....

Why would BOINC put 6.4.6 under the main page but have a 6.6.11 version available for download too? Only a release candidate and not a stable version?

Correct.

jasong

03-01-2009, 08:12 PM

Nobody said yoyo@home, so I will. Yoyo(don't know his real name, hope I haven't offended him if that IS his real name) has recently managed to implement ecm(a number factoring program) on BOINC. For those familiar with the whole factoring scene, he's running XYYXZ(I think that's the name), Odd Perfect Number search(I want to dance every time I think about OPN project being helped by BOINC) and the ElevenSmooth project.

yoyo@home also runs workunits for OGR, evolution@home, and something called muon. You can crunch any of those 4 projects, but it will all go into a yoyo@home project "pot" when you look at stats. Unless, of course, you specifically go to the yoyo@home site, which breaks things down by individual project. He gives out little virtual rewards next to your score if you donate a minimal number of cobblestones to a project.

LAURENU2

03-02-2009, 12:59 AM

jasong you suggest yoyo@home but yet you did not contribute anything to the FEB push :Pokes:

There is a old saying If you want to play you have to pay

Anything yoyo@home can do I or you can do WHY why use yoyo@home to me it makes NO sense :bang:

IronBits

03-02-2009, 01:39 AM

I'll never do anything yoyo related. I see no reason for it myself.

CaptainMooseInc

03-02-2009, 03:09 AM

I'm going to back pfb on this one after finally looking in some projects...

I like the idea of POEM@home for March. :thumbs:

IronBits

03-02-2009, 04:25 AM

Poem - 41st place
http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/
Microsoft Windows (98 or later) running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU
Linux running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU
Mac OS 10.4 or later running on Intel
Folding proteins.

World Community Grid - 182nd place!!!
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=minimumreq
6 different projects all from the same place.
Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together
FightAIDS@Home
Help Conquer Cancer
Human Proteome Folding
Human Proteome Folding - Phase 2
Nutritious Rice for the World

Supports:
Windows - Windows ME, 2000, XP, or Vista
Linux
MACs - Intel or PowerPC processor, although one is Intel only

Requirements:
250mb of ram, so if you have 4 cores, 1GB of memory, not bad!
200mb of disk space, x 4 cores, 800mb of disk space in some projects.
800x600 graphics

We can make a poll in a new thread when we decide which projects we might like to hit.

So far we have
POEM@Home
World Community Grid
Magnetism@Home
SuperLink (if work is available)
MindModelling
VTU

Folding@Home (with GPUs only, if you got em) (PCZ was trying to get us to help out on this project a few months back)

Did I miss any?

I'm leaning towards a big push in World Community Grid to see if we can get down below a 100 at least.

Fozzie

03-02-2009, 08:42 AM

for a long time, more crunchers would be nice to see.

Too strapped for power to provide much to anything else as need to keep what I have on SoB.

Digital Parasite

03-02-2009, 11:53 AM

Anything yoyo@home can do I or you can do WHY why use yoyo@home to me it makes NO sense :bang:

Some of the projects yoyo does you cannot easily do in an automated fashion. The factoring projects for example are much more complicated for an individual to set up and many of the times you need to manually download and reserve work. So yoyo does make sense for those projects for people you just want to install and run something and not worry about the details.

I know this is hard to believe, but some people don't care about individual stats, they are more interested in the end result. :eek:

LAURENU2

03-02-2009, 06:22 PM

I know this is hard to believe, but some people don't care about individual stats, they are more interested in the end result. :eek:
What There are people that Don't care about Stats:mad:
:firedevil:Point them out I will change there minds:whip:

IronBits

03-02-2009, 06:35 PM

:rotfl:

gopher_yarrowzoo

03-03-2009, 04:29 AM

Digital Parasite just got "Pwnd"....
I'll slap up a poll based on what IB put then shall I...

LAURENU2

03-28-2009, 07:21 PM

:banana:We are at Mid way Point :cheers: And :cheers:You Know What that Means:banana:

:catfight: __Time To Pick The Next Project __ :catfight:

I see Aqua@Home Has Fixed :thumbs: there lack of checkpoint problem they had and they have work:D
We could work our way back into the top 10 Again
==========================================================

Or we could try VTU@Home and take 1st place:evillaugh:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Any Other Choices ??

CaptainMooseInc

03-29-2009, 01:09 AM

I doubt it will as PoTM, but I want to throw out Project Sudoku as a suggestion. It just looks FUN. :)

Bok

03-29-2009, 08:50 AM

Not enough stable work in Soduko or VTU@Home last I ran it. Aqua is a possibility though.

alpha

03-29-2009, 11:04 AM

Hasn't Aqua been running out of work a lot lately?

pfb

03-29-2009, 06:36 PM

Aqua over VTU for me - VTU was leaving too many orphaned instances to be good for me.

IronBits

03-30-2009, 02:08 AM

We could always stay on Poem@Home for another month and climb higher up the ladder...

Death

03-30-2009, 04:02 AM

sudoku have 2 wus from 12 series to crunch to complete a whole bunch.

13 series wu is a huge. they have to split it, but programmeк will be avail only at april, so a week or two there will be no work.

LAURENU2

03-30-2009, 10:33 AM

We could always stay on Poem@Home for another month and climb higher up the ladder...
I Vote to stay till the End of the Month and start a new :catfight:one on the 1st
The mid month start end is hard for me to get my head around :hair:

Petey

03-30-2009, 10:47 AM

So we will be starting the next POTM on April 1.

I've got to ask - will it start before or after mid-day :D

gopher_yarrowzoo

03-30-2009, 03:28 PM

Okay here is what I think Poem@Home has only had 2 weeks I say we let this one run till end of April that gives up a month to come up with a good project, and also let's us build up a bigger lead on other teams :)...
It would either be that or some of us would have work we couldn't do or work that might end up "old" before it's done if we switched projects.

pfb

03-31-2009, 02:14 AM

pfb

04-13-2009, 08:23 PM

Did we decide on what was happening?

gopher_yarrowzoo

04-16-2009, 03:05 AM

I don't think we did, Someone figure out what we could do and throw up a poll please..

ColinT

05-05-2009, 03:22 PM

Aqua is nearly always out of work. I am ready to change. That's why I came here, looking for another project.

What shall I run? My only preferences are no OGR or Factoring. I never understood factoring.

Quick, someone tell me where to go :crazy:

I am ready to make my move this instant.

Crazy Colin

PS: I just finished a 93 hour work unit. This is unacceptable.