Client Update?

[Pascal]

The news section says something about a protein change - although we're testing a new algorithm.

So here my question:

Will there be an protein or a client update? An update of both doesn't seem senseful to me. :confused:

[shortfinal]

Just a protein change. The new client is still in beta test.

[IronBits]

Mine is hanging trying to get new protein...
I've stuck the -i f switch in there for awhile until I figure out what's going on...
Some say it's the beta client :confused:


* Most recent client version released February 25, 2003
** Most recent screensaver version released February 25, 2003
Most recent daemon version released January 31, 2003

[Insidious]

Mine were hung for a while..

(can't communicate with server... or some such message in error.log)

but now they are uploading results fine.... However, dfGUI is still showing 96 for the protien size, so I am not updated????

-Sid


ERROR: [777.000] {ncbi_socket.c, line 910} [SOCK::s_Connect] Failed pending connect to bar.csh.rit.edu:80 (Unknown)
ERROR: [777.000] {ncbi_connutil.c, line 526} [URL_Connect] Socket connect to bar.csh.rit.edu:80 failed: Unknown
ERROR: [777.000] {ncbi_http_connector.c, line 117} [HTTP] Retry attempt(s) exhausted, giving up
ERROR: [000.000] {foldtrajlite.c, line 1195} Unable to check update file length
ERROR: [000.000] {foldtrajlite.c, line 1497} Unable to retrieve update file list
ERROR: [010.003] {taskapi.c, line 1199} [ReadServerResponse] Timeout waiting for response, got 0 chars.
ERROR: [000.000] {foldtrajlite.c, line 1604} Unable to retrieve update file

[FoBoT]

i got the beta when i downloaded "distribfold-current-win9x.zip"

i can't hit the beta site "beta.distribfold.org"

:confused:

[IronBits]

2 unix boxes show 89AA is the protein.
I saw "Server down for protein switchover" or something like that.
Use the -i f switch and it will keep crunching ;)

[pfb]

Originally posted by FoBoT
i got the beta when i downloaded "distribfold-current-win9x.zip"

i can't hit the beta site "beta.distribfold.org"

:confused:

same here - when downloading the client from the main download page I get the new protein but the beta client...looks like folding is off on a few machines for the moment

:help:

edit- oh well, looks like the screensaver is OK so I'll run that on the few until the Text client download is fixed...

[Onyx]

When I run the new text client, I've this error :

ERROR: [000.000] {taskapi.c, line 586} Invalid argument: -s
FATAL ERROR: [000.000] {foldtrajlite2.c, line 5190} Missing/Invalid arguments. For usage, run program, with no arguments.
I'm running WinXP on a AMD 1400Mhz.

[Onyx]

Hum, sorry, I have found the problem !
It's a bug with Distributed Folding GUY 2.1 when you configure more than 5000 units for upload frequency.

But the server is always down... I can't run the client ^^

[Mr.CeeJay]

Anyone a good mirror for me, cause it's going real slow here in Holland ?!?!?!
:shocked:

[Insidious]

onyx
shutdown your computer, disable your interconnection, then start back up. If you want DF to continue crunching. You can re-connect your internet after it is running and it will keep crunching and saving results until the server is back.

-Sid

[Welnic]

Originally posted by Onyx
Hum, sorry, I have found the problem !
It's a bug with Distributed Folding GUY 2.1 when you configure more than 5000 units for upload frequency.

But the server is always down... I can't run the client ^^

If you are seeing it complain because it doesn't like the -s switch, that sounds like you have the beta client. If you still had the old client you could run with a -if switch and it won't look for the server, you just have to remove that switch later in order to upload.

[Onyx]

I upload the Text client on my FTP Here (http://www.swisssoldierscoalition.ch/~onyx/dfp/distribfold-current-win9x.zip)

[Onyx]

The beta client ??? I've download the new client 5 minutes ago...

[Welnic]

Originally posted by Onyx
The beta client ??? I've download the new client 5 minutes ago...

There are rumours that the distribfold-current-win9x.zip actually contains the new protein but the beta client. I know the -s switch doesn't work on the beta program.

[IronBits]

If you see this
http://www.dbestern.com/files/energy.png
Does this mean it's a beta?

[IronBits]

I think this new client broke DFGUI :(

[Welnic]

Originally posted by IronBits
If you see this
http://www.dbestern.com/files/energy.png
Does this mean it's a beta?

That is a sure-fire sign of the beta.

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by IronBits
If you see this
http://www.dbestern.com/files/energy.png
Does this mean it's a beta?

yes, that is the beta and dfGUI no worky with the beta

i just downloaded it again from a different DSL line and i got the same 6622177 byte file

i emailed howard, but he must have gone home for the day :cry:

anybody have his cell phone number?!!?!? :help:



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[IronBits]

darn. That's what I downloaded from your ftp site. :(
Still downloading the client from the official site, let ya know what I get there.

[Insidious]

yepperz, that's the Beta!

(If you manually d/l'd the update, you got the beta)

pronounced: The Wrong File!

[Welnic]

If you manually download the windows version you get the beta. If you replace the foldtrajlite.exe in the new download with the foldtrajlite.exe in your current folder everything works.

The beta one is 2848 KB, the one that you want is 1316 KB.

[IronBits]

When you start it up, it says
(500 until next generation, 0 generations buffered)
First clue it's beta... :bang:

[Welnic]

If someone can put just the old executable on an ftp site or something I can email them a copy.

clint(at)rasy.com

But I don't really want to email a copy to 200 people. :)

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by Welnic
If you manually download the windows version you get the beta. If you replace the foldtrajlite.exe in the new download with the foldtrajlite.exe in your current folder everything works.

The beta one is 2848 KB, the one that you want is 1316 KB.

aww! that should work, its worth a try since howard has already gone to bed for the night! :sleepy:

[Grumpy]

Man this suxorz..only 1 computer auto updated correctly. One downloaded the file but the unpack failed to find the update file in folder..yes it is there. Other PC just said it worked..NOT. The final one just completed the download but did not install anything but deleted the update. What has Howard been drinking today :p

[Insidious]

nevermind

[Paratima]

BTW, if you've already started running it, you need to delete the .bz2 files (except rotlib.bz2), and filelist.txt, 'cause the server won't accept them.

BTW#2, the Linux client seems to be running fine. :)

[Insidious]

I just gave it up....

I'll re-install a copy of the current client tomorrow and try it
again....

:crazy:

[Ned]

First attempt at autoupdate failed on both Linux and W2K.
2nd attempt by w2k worked and I got new
native.val
protein.trj
..
All seems well.

Ned

[FoBoT]

i think he is fixing it, the site seems to be back down

[Grumpy]

To err is human, to err lots means you work in Redmond :haddock:

[Brian the Fist]

Hi all, just a few minor quirks, nothing to get your panties in a bunch about though :D

First, our usual download mirror site was down due to hardware troubles so everyone was sucking bandwidth from the hospital only (so updating may have taken a bit longer/more tries). Also, it appears the Windows and linux-i386 files on the FTP site (i.e. if you go to the Download page on the web site and click them) included the incorrect executables (the Beta versions as you pointed out). This is fixed now (as of 11:20PM EST) so if you downloaded the incorrect copy, please try again now (make sure your browser doesn't cache the download and it really re-downloads it). If unsure, run 'foldtrajlite' from the command line with no arguments. the date on the first line should be Jan 31. If instead it is a date in Feb., you have the beta.

If your machine auto-updated you won't have this problem. Sorry for any trouble this may have caused.

Also the beta.distirbutedfolding.org site was down for a bit for those of you doing beta testing, but this is back up and working fine now too.

[FoBoT]

thank you, i knew you weren't asleep, yet :D

:notworthy

[KWSN_Millennium2001Guy]

I currently can't get to the www.distributedfolding.org webpage.

[FoBoT]

yeah, how "up" is it?

i can't hit it yet, kick it in gear so i can go home! :crazy:

i can ping it, but no port 80 action going on or something

i know, i will break out my trusty port scanner :p

[KWSN_Millennium2001Guy]

My entire farm is down. I can't kill the client (it runs as an NT service). The executable that is running is dated 2003/02/25 11:14 PM and all files are from that build/zip file. When I execute the command
netsvc /stop \\computername "Distributed Folding Project Service"
the service HANGS and will not shut down. The only way to kill it is to reboot the computer.

I will reboot the farm and try again tomorrow.:bang:

[Paratima]

Originally posted by KWSN_Millennium2001Guy
The only way to kill it is to reboot the computer. I was able to kill it with Task Manager (Win2K).

[KWSN_Millennium2001Guy]

When I tried to use task manager to kill foldtrajlite.ex I got the message "access denied"

This is not good.

[IronBits]

This is starting out very badly... 12 hours after the *official release*
It must really be tuff for you LARGE pharmers out there
It's a PITA for me :bang:
Can't get the client, winders type clients that are running, are hanging trying to get the update. Can't manually download the client and just pass it around to all the computers etc. AND it's a slower protein to :cry:
I also see my clients cacheing WUs.
I think my panties are beginning to bunch up back there :D
:help: :jester:

[IronBits]

Originally posted by KWSN_Millennium2001Guy
When I tried to use task manager to kill foldtrajlite.ex I got the message "access denied"
This is not good.
Look for kill.exe on your resource kit, or delete the .lock file...
that'll get it for sure :)

[KWSN_Millennium2001Guy]

Deleting the lock file doesn't do it either.

REBOOTING IS THE ONLY OPTION. (BTW, my copy of the Winders 2000 Resource kit doesn't have the KILL.EXE in it) The only way to kill the client is with the net stop command, which the client is currently ignoring.

I've created a script to reboot the farm and I am testing it now.

If it works, I will set it loose on the farm and go home.

edit:
SHUTDOWN.EXE is a life-saver. I've executed the script and all looks well. I am going to try to run GAH on whatever still has it installed.

Good night all.

[Grumpy]

On the positive side, if this was a fully commercial project, it would be costing them at least $500 an hour to troubleshoot...we do it for free..we are such swell people :cheers:

[lemonsqzz]

Just enjoyin the ride here.. all my stuff is Linux .. so this time around i'm not having too much trouble ... wasnt all that long ago the *nix clents had all the problems .. suddenly the universe is in balance again .. :moon:

[PinHead]

Well since the proxy was fixed everything that was online at the time was updated just fine.;)

But since the server seems to be 100% down , nothing that was offline will update.

I hope this wasn't another fire, and if it was I hope everyone is OK.

Maybe you could push the magic *.html file to the foldtrajupdateproxy users so that contact is not necessary??

[Digital Parasite]

Originally posted by FoBoT
yes, that is the beta and dfGUI no worky with the

I haven't had time to update dfGUI to support the new beta client yet so you are correct, it won't work properly if you are running the beta. Since the output is different I will most likely release a new version of the beta client goes live as the official release since it won't be backwards compatible. I will probably make a beta version available for the beta testers to try out though.

Jeff.

[PackSwede]

Are people over there waking up yet !?!, it's soon time for me to go home from work and i still haven't been able to update a single machine :(

[HaloJones]

While most of the time a server outage is not a major issue, during a changeover it is a major PITA. Would it not be better if the update to the servers happened in the morning (Howard-time) rather than the afternoon?

I have around 50% of my farm running 96aa with large caches of structures waiting to upload. Soon, I will lose credit for them :(

[Pascal]

Originally posted by HaloJones
While most of the time a server outage is not a major issue, during a changeover it is a major PITA. Would it not be better if the update to the servers happened in the morning (Howard-time) rather than the afternoon?

I have around 50% of my farm running 96aa with large caches of structures waiting to upload. Soon, I will lose credit for them :(

I would rather say: While most of the actual problems are indeed produced by Howard and his team, I would recommend to let the old structures count longer that 24 hours at full worth or start this count with the release of the new client. How do you think about this?

[jonnyw]

hey all i'm VERY new to distributed computing and distributed folding (started last tuesday).

Was just wondering if anyone could shed some light as to what is going on as the website high flyers page and server seem to be down.

When i try to start up foldit it says checking for newer versions , before timing out after a while saying "server being updated with new proteins" or something similar.

I've downloaded the text client (from the main site's downloads page) and set it runnig without my proxy.cfg file so that it can't connect through our uni's firewall (i think this has the same effect as the -i f setting), and it has started folding with residues up to 89.

Is it ok to do this until the server is back up and then upload everything then, or am i wasting my time/would i be better waiting until the program automatically uploads the latest version?

Is it working on the right thing (residues up to 89)?
:help:

[PackSwede]

I am now officially going home from work and still no updates made :( The suggestion about updating in the morning (Central Howard Time) sound good to me, more time to fix problems like these when they occur

[IronBits]

I concur, early morning for Howard and crew is best for changing out, but, after they have had their coffee and woke up ;)

[FoBoT]

:sleepy:

is he still sleeping?

i had to sleep all night with a wedgie! :shocked:

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by jonnyw
hey all i'm VERY new to distributed computing and distributed folding (started last tuesday).
Is it ok to do this until the server is back up and then upload everything then, or am i wasting my time/would i be better waiting until the program automatically uploads the latest version?

Is it working on the right thing (residues up to 89)?
:help:

welcome to DF! :)

you are fine, your PC is doing the correct work and will buffer the data until the server connectivity is restored (hopefully soon)

at one point during the setup of your DF client it asked you about how many files to buffer, the default is to not buffer large number of files. if you stayed with the default, and your PC is quite fast, it might hit the disk space/buffer limitation before howard gets the servers back online, but it will correct itself as soon as your client can contact the servers

this doesn't happen very often, if the beta stuff wasn't going on, i believe this would have been another "smooth" protein change

[jonnyw]

cheers for the verification :cheers: