Stampede!

[willy1]

Well, mates - we're in for it this month.

DPC has announced a month-long 'stampede' in DF starting Jan 14th.
see this Ars post (http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/ubb.x?q=Y&a=tpc&s=50009562&f=122097561&m=6651066&p=3)

I ran a couple of web page translators over the Tweakers.net post, and it looks like DPC are doing a 5 team gauntlet.

Let's crank it up a notch!


I'm leaving on holiday on Wednesday, but the pharm is on autopilot.


willy1

[PCZ]

I have this vision of every member of DPC crunching for a whole month and then dumping on the last day.

With any luck it will crash the DF servers and they will loose all there uploads :p

[Welnic]

They do love their dumps. But it looks like just an extreme jump in production.

http://stats.zerothelement.com/cgi-bin/distributed-folding/render-team-detailed.pl?Id=81

[willy1]

That whole increase looks to be one user MrMr ramping up to over 4M per hour.

The 'stampede' isn't scheduled to start until Jan 14th !

[PCZ]

Fozzie

I dont think that telling them to bring it on was a particularly good idea :rotfl:

They have linked to your post in their stampede thread.

Can anyone properly translate this:
Zouden ze al tisshues nodig hebben en schone luiers ? :D

[willy1]

Zouden ze al tisshues nodig hebben en schone luiers ?

"Them already tissues will have necessary and clean trainer nappy"

Gawd, I love computer transalations :spank:

[Chinasaur]

Ok Math Whizzes....don your thinking caps.

Even `IF` the managed to surpass FDCs output for any length of time..

How long would it take them to get within 500M units of FDC`s DF Team?

3B units is not an insignificant hurdle.

[PCZ]

Why dont we have a gauntlet as well ?

How about Team Fozzie vs Team Anarchy99.

[FoBoT]

i would actually like to see the DPC take the #2 spot from ARs , hehehehehe :harhar:

Ars is doing SETI and it will end at the end of 2003, then we'll be in big trouble :looney:

[willy1]

If they wanted to *pass* us within 30 days, they would have to out-produce us by 121M per day, or by roughly 5M points/hour (or 10M points per one Dyy stats increment).

That is a fair piece of crunching.

[Anteraan]

Ok, so if two trains leave Boston at the same time -- one going north, and one going south...oh, nevermind. :p

But, if the DPC's could produce a delta of 5 meelion per update, and maintain it for 50 days, they could make up the 3 beelion difference.

Needless to say, that's asking an awful lot. If they do it, I'll tip my virtual hat to them. That said, I have no idea how much computing power they have that they can divert to DF atm (hopefully they're not all going to pull a MrMr :scared: ). In the final analysis, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Either way, it should be fun to watch. I'll predict they'll move up a couple spots at least, with their eyes on the podium.

I feel a "mad cow disease" joke coming on... :rotfl:

[Welnic]

Their active users have gone from 89 on the 2nd to 200 on the 5th.

[Paratima]

My work pharm is busy with FoBoT trying to catch us up on Find-A-Drug. Somebody wake me up if it gets desparate :bonk: and I'll swing my guns back around. Still got my sneaker-netters on DF.

[FoBoT]

if the next protein is significantly slower, i bet the DPC gauntlet participants will be surprised by their lack of output :crazy:

[Anteraan]

Absolutely true, FoBoT :harhar: -- but that can work both ways. :thumbs: I'm really curious to see what the new protein will be like. I guess I won't have to wait much longer, since we're due for a change on Wednesday. The new algorithm made what seemed to be a horribly slow, twisted, bear of a protein (under the old algo) into something extremely manageable. I'd love to see this algorithm get a shot at a fast, small protein -- not only for the stats (although those would be sweet), but I'm thinking we'd have a darned good shot at getting a decent RMSD out of it.

[Aegion]

Originally posted by FoBoT
i would actually like to see the DPC take the #2 spot from ARs , hehehehehe :harhar:

Ars is doing SETI and it will end at the end of 2003, then we'll be in big trouble :looney:
I don't think you've fully considered what this means as far as the effectiveness of a recruitment drive goes for TSF...

[[DPC]Mobster]

I'm glad to see you're all speculating about our team :)
Keep it up. It is most enjoyable. :jester:

I'll be satisfied if we can give you a run for your money in de dailys. Frankly, I think the gap overall is much too big....

But you'll never know offcourse :crazy:

[DPC Intelligence]

Zouden ze al tisshues nodig hebben en schone luiers

Means:

Do they need tissues and dipers(dunno how to write it) already?

:cheers:

[Fozzie]

Them Cows will be lucky to average 3 to 3.5 mill per update.

There are no other big crunchers besides MrMr.

Not that I have seen yet anyway.:Pokes:

So whilst they may catch ProCooling (who roadkilled them a little while ago) and then maybe Overclockers Australia (whose rugby team got beaten recently) tehy shouldn't trouble OCWorkbench.

BTW congrats to the Cows for their first Billion. :thumbs: :drums:

Membership up to 226 now :shocked:

[dutch]

Originally posted by Fozzie
Them Cows will be lucky to average 3 to 3.5 mill per update.

There are no other big crunchers besides MrMr.


sure about that? ;)

[Fozzie]

pretty sure, unless they haven't joined DF yet.

Give me a nudge when they are onboard.;)

[gopher_yarrowzoo]

Fozzie

I dont think that telling them to bring it on was a particularly good idea

They have linked to your post in their stampede thread.
Hmm let me see I think it was me who told them to "Bring it ON" to the Arsians but if the Dutch Power Cows wanna go then let 'em try... maybe the fozzie did too :D good on him ;)
Hmm Top 50 for me soon too *evil grin*

[DPC Intelligence]

We've got GC allready and OCWorkbench is coming up :bouncy:

When do you get them?
0 days The Genome Collective
55 days Overclockers Australia
81 days ProCooling
843 days OCworkbench

[Dyyryath]

I notice that you've been smart enough not to try adding Free-DC to that list. :D

Seriously, I remember you guys from dnet. It's good to see you coming to Distributed Folding a little more actively! :thumbs:

[pointwood]

It all depends on how many people join that stampede.

DPC certainly isn't a small team. They are probably close to the size of us (Ars).

[Marcelloz]

Originally posted by pointwood
It all depends on how many people join that stampede.

DPC certainly isn't a small team. They are probably close to the size of us (Ars).
Well, at this point the number of daily flushers have gone up from 50 to 200+ and it will probably rise to 250+. Far better than we expected :)
:|party|: :cheers:

[Anteraan]

As of the 6:00 PM EST update, 282 active out of 339 for the DPC, and 3,286,617 for the update (yea, I know it's only one and all, but...) and only 166,509 of those from MrMr. Also, they're not too far behind Ars for 2nd in the weekly, which will be the stat I enjoy watching for a while.

They're putting on a good show so far. I think this is going to be fun to watch.

[pointwood]

That's not bad :thumbs:

[FoBoT]

:sleepy:

[magnav0x]

I'll place my bet on our 60 over their 286 any day of the week :thumbs:

[Fozzie]

304 active members
2nd place in dailies and almost 2nd in the weekly too, another day and they will have that one for sure.

Whilst watching DPC demolish those teams down in 4th and 5th I think we should also see a possible threat here. Not from DPC, well not yet anyway but if Ars actually got their arse into gear with real purpose they could do a similar job on us.

Sure we have a 600 million lead but if Ars hit 85% activity like DPC have then we would be seriously out produced.

Remember a lot of our hourly is provided by Beth who may have to shut down soon due to the sprogs goig back to school/college/whatever.

Take out 1 million and hour of ours and double Ars's and see what we would get in a month or so.

Hey what a doom merchant I am.:p

[FoBoT]

well SETI is ending any nano-second now and then every SETI cruncher for TLC will be running DF and we'll be smashed to bits anyway, so i don't see there is any point to taking action, we are doomed

:whistle:

[Fozzie]

I was trying to be serious.:cool:

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by Fozzie
I was trying to be serious.:cool:

sorry, i am not very good at that (being serious :looney: )

[RedVox]

Don't want to make you scared.. but you're lead at ARS has just gone down by 150.00.000.
I think ARS want's to make shure that they won't get run over by "some" cows :)

[PCZ]

Thats a slap in the face for the OCworkbench team

[pointwood]

I would wait and see if this is just a temporary move or not...

[[DPC] Bud_s]

Originally posted by magnav0x
I'll place my bet on our 60 over their 286 any day of the week :thumbs:
Bet again ! :elephant:

Just keep in mind that our Stampede actualy will start on the 14th (as you can read on our forum).

My best guess is that after then we will have even more power, lot off people test-driving now, just to make sure client will run and make a good start :)

[Fozzie]

332 active crunchers

11 million on this update.

17 million more than Free DC on last day's update.

Only 35 mill less than us on the week.

Got to say impressive stuff form the Cows.:thumbs:

Loks like procooling will fall in a couple of days

Overclockers Oz may take 10 days.

OCWorkbench could be accessible within the timeframe of the stampede.

:cheers:

[iggy]

Very impressive recruitment and production from DPC! :cheers:

Only one comfort remains - try to get better RMS values... :rolleyes:

[the-mk]

Dutch farmers do have a lot of cows on their farm :D

A lot of firepower! :shocked: :scared: More than Ars! Nice recruitment...

I don't want to say that out loud, but within some time we will lose our #1-spot on DF :( Or did this stampede-thing already begin?

[magicfan241]

I don't want to say that out loud, but within some time we will lose our #1-spot on DF Or did this stampede-thing already begin?

The gauntlet has not officially started yet, but we are in the up of the gauntlet arc (as I see things). This arc goes as follows:

1. A week or so before the guntlet people start switching over when comfortable or they can (i.e. tight race in another project)
2. 12-48 hours beforehand all of the home pharms are switched over to DF, allowing time to fix any errors (firewall issues, RAM, etc.)
3. After the start of the gauntlet, people will borg like crazy for the next few days, slowly bringing the graph to level.
4. when the gauntlet is around 75% done, one of two things happen:
a. The subteam's lead is secure, firepower is slowly brought off of the project
b. The subteam's lead is not secure, or the subteam has a chance to pass causing:
i. Mad overclocks on machines
ii. a number of subteams members for only a week (a prolonged spike)
iii. people borging computers that may not have been worth it before
5. After the conclusion of the gauntlet, during the next week, much of the power is brought off of DF (or whatever project it is on), and returned to its home project. At the same time, some extra power stays (this is more true for larger teams, i.e. Ars, DPC, Anand)

So we are inbetween 1 and 2, moving toward 2 rather quickly.


And, if they threaten us too badly, I have 4-5Ghz I can pull to DF.

magicfan241

Moo who?

[FoBoT]

the protein change tomorrow is likely to knock out some of them, then they'll get pissed off and say the client stinks and go back to XYZ project

no worries :sleepy:

[[DPC] Bud_s]

Originally posted by FoBoT
the protein change tomorrow is likely to knock out some of them, then they'll get pissed off and say the client stinks and go back to XYZ project

no worries :sleepy:

Why do you think the stampede begins at the 14th ??

All crunchers allready know about the change :)
In a special topic this is dealth with, configure options are discussed, and people have been informed to make sure they check their clients. :)

[Dyyryath]

Originally posted by [DPC] Bud_s
Why do you think the stampede begins at the 14th ??

All crunchers allready know about the change :)
In a special topic this is dealth with, configure options are discussed, and people have been informed to make sure they check their clients. :)

You'd almost think these DPC guys have done this distributed computing thing before, eh? ;)

Fantastic job so far, guys! :thumbs:

[RedVox]

Originally posted by Dyyryath
You'd almost think these DPC guys have done this distributed computing thing before, eh? ;)

Fantastic job so far, guys! :thumbs:

We ?? no.. we don't do anything with DC :P

[ColdFusion]

When do you get them?
3 days ProCooling
14 days Overclockers Australia
27 days OCworkbench
340 days Ars Technica Team Stir Fry
When do they get you?
nobody

That looks quite promicing :) We are able to catch atleast 3 teams within the timeframe of the Stampede :)

[[DPC]Mobster]

All those little new Cows here. Stop bothering these nice people... :spank:

[Anteraan]

Originally posted by ColdFusion
When do you get them?
3 days ProCooling
14 days Overclockers Australia
27 days OCworkbench
340 days Ars Technica Team Stir Fry


So, my previous prediction that the DPC could end up on the podium looks solid, barring an even slower protein tomorrow. And, for all I care, Mobster, your "calves" are welcome to kick around here all they like, as long as they're well-behaved like the rest of the herd. :thumbs:

[ColdFusion]

Meanwhile the 2nd victim of the Stampede, ProCooling, has fallen :cheers:

[RedVox]

Originally posted by ColdFusion
Meanwhile the 2nd victim of the Stampede, ProCooling, has fallen :cheers:

Well... officially the stampede hasn't even begun..
Still 7.30 hours to go before the stampede start's.:crazy:

[FoBoT]

i have sacrificed 3 goats to the slow protein gods :moon: :moon: :moon:

[pointwood]

NOOOOO!!! What have those poor goats done to you?! :cry:

Because of that, I'll make sure you all get a "nice" surprise :bonk:

:D

[DPC Intelligence]

20 mins and counting :cheers: :moon: :|party|: :thumbs: :bouncy: :drums: :elephant: :fireboun: :neener: :banana: :flame:

Yes, i do like ur smileys :P

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by DPC Intelligence

Yes, i do like ur smileys :P

:evil:

http://www.t-gallery.com/popular/funcows/fcimages/cowlader.gif

[FoBoT]

http://www.distinctgolf.com/fairview/images/Grill.gif

[Paratima]

:rotfl:

[[DPC] Bud_s]

Originally posted by magnav0x
I'll place my bet on our 60 over their 286 any day of the week :thumbs:

Sorry for quotin' you again, but it seems almost like the other way arround :)

But don't be afraid, we will not have this amount of "cows" for ever :)

A real challange would be for you guys to find even more powerrr :rotfl:
All offcourse for DF-s benifit :elephant:

btw: maybe a good idea for the collection of smiley's : a mhooooowwing cow ;)

[Anteraan]

When it was 60 vs 286, we were holding our own, but now that you've increased to 348 (nearly one-fifth of all active users - great job DPC!), and we've dropped to 54 active, :help: that's a pretty overwhelming margin. We'll see you on the podium...soon. :thumbs:

[FoBoT]

we're doomed

they haven't even done any mega dumps :dump:

they probably have some number of peoples crunching offline and will at some point crash the upload server

we're doomed

[magicfan241]

Fobot: STFU! WE don't need any depressing talk right now. We have a large lead, and have a number of cruncherswho are off doing off other things, but will come back if needed (like myself).

It is no where near over. The DPC can go mooooooo for all I care, I have yet to see anything that warrants my attention within the timeframe assumed. The DPC can let the milk curdle in their udders for all I care!


magicfan241,
Member of Free-DC,
Leader of Team Crab Cake,
Scared by NO ONE! :machgun: :machgun: :machgun:

[Marcelloz]

LOL@FoBoT

You guys are so far ahead, in this pace we won't catch you until christmas.
So don't worry just enjoy the things we do. After we hit the #3 spot, it's a loooong way up so all we can do it is e.g. try to do 100M a day or so to keep everyone interested. :D

But, i must agree, we are doing a hell of a lot better than I initially expected. I personally hoped for 20M/day... :rolleyes:

[Paratima]

Very impressive performance! :eek:

[Grumpy]

I got a white flag around here somewhere, it used to be white but it has cow dung all over it :help:

[MrMr]

No need for a flag, we smell your fear from here

[mr_mann]

ahh shiat... I can't have my fellow FREE-dc'ers having problems...

i can pitch in some help...

56 Mr Mann 9,140,195 103,498,619

someone call for some butchers?

[Fozzie]

DPC shouldn't trouble us though.

[mr_mann]

ok ok carry on then fozzie...

just give me a call if u need some help..

I could rustle up about 20~ machines

[PCZ]

mr_mann
Thanks for the offer
ARS are ramping up and outproducing Free-DC, so if you can help out please do.

[pointwood]

according to the last update, we were 100k behind in the last day, so that's not true :p

I'll not promise we won't ramp up further though :D

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by PCZ
mr_mann
Thanks for the offer
ARS are ramping up and outproducing Free-DC, so if you can help out please do.

Ars production is troubling, not the cows. if the cows choose to keep these numbers for the whole year, we can't stop them. if they get tired and move to XYZ project, then we'll start regaining our lead on them

the Ars dudes finally are getting close to our weekly numbers, that is bad :help:

[Anteraan]

Originally posted by pointwood
according to the last update, we were 100k behind in the last day, so that's not true :p

I'll not promise we won't ramp up further though :D

As of the noon EST update, you're 650k up on us for the day. Don't you need more people on SETI? :p

[pointwood]

Wanna help out? ;) :p

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by pointwood
Wanna help out? ;) :p

i'll shift all of my boxen currently running SETI for Free-DC to SETI TeamLameChop if you switch all of your boxen currently running DF for TeamSlurpFly to DF Free-DC :whistle:

[[DPC] zion]

Well, start worying.....

100+ NEW teammembers today!!! (Oke, you're possibly 2 far ahead, but he, we'll do our best ;))

[[DPC] zion]

Make that 200!!!!

[omixium]

Dutch Power Cows (994 members, 703 producing)

:drums:

[omixium]

And it isn't milk we're producing :moon:

[FoBoT]

must be a lot of offline crunching, the team stats for the past week look about the same

don't break the server when y'all dump

[neographikal]

I'm new here, also @ Folding and helping DPC ;)

1040 users atm, and still rising :)

Love your smileys btw! :cheers:

[[DPC] zion]

I hate to be the one to have to tell you this.....

Final Score new members (today): over 300!! :shocked: :scared: (1116 members 883 producing)

it was < 800 this morning!

:D :bouncy: :elephant: :D

You should see it reflecting in our stats once everybody has their clients up and running correctly :cheers:

[magicfan241]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but:

MY K6-2 533 WILL BEAT ALL OF YOUR COMPUTERS!!!!

AND

ALL YOUR BOXEN ARE BELONG TO US!!!!!!


magicfan241

[Cow_tipping]

Originally posted by magicfan241
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but:

ALL YOUR BOXEN ARE BELONG TO US!!!!!!


magicfan241

Well, thank you for letting me borrow them. :thumbs: :weggy: