New Secret Weapon against the mooers

[Fozzie]

Just heard some serious news on the internal grapevine should put pay to the mooers for good.:cheers:

They would have to ramp up big style to hope to stay in touch now.

I'll PM you guys with the details.

[IronBits]

w00t! :|party|:

[Basman]

We've allready been ramping it up BIG-TIME for a long time now :D

[magicfan241]

Yo Fozz!

Hook me up on the info-rizzle!

Ar you bein for-rizzle on the moo-izzle with the cow-rizzle?

I gots ta know!

magicfan241

[Moogie]

w000t! Sounds like there is some serious :stomp: coming up.

[Leviathann]

The Dutch Cows? I WANNA KNOW!!!

[Chinasaur]

Is it an automated milking machine?

[gopher_yarrowzoo]

Bring it on - woo hoo get to play with the "shafting" settings on my warp drives now :D :moon: :smoking:

[MerePeer]

BBQ beef = yumyum

[bwkaz]

Ehh? What's going on?

/me thinks he missed something... checks his PM's, no, nothing there... :scratch: ;)

[Thor]

/ me wants to know too, please let me know !!!!:swear: :swear: :swear: :spank:

[Moogie]

Hang on to your seats mates. Me thinks it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

How does everyone like their burgers? :D

/me thinks the cows will soon be wearing :sack: on their heads.

:taz: :gangpunch :corn: :bath: :stretcher

[magnav0x]

*gasp* Is that a thong Moogie!

[Paratima]

Looks like a Full Frontal Navel Assault! :eek:

[Marcelloz]

blah blah blah the only thing keeping DPC from the #1 spot is the numerous team hoppers. No sport at all.

So until we don't see any increase in your daily output, we just laugh at your hilarious attempt to scare us with empty words. :rotfl:

[bwkaz]

Originally posted by Moogie
How does everyone like their burgers? :D Burgers? Cooked all the way through at least, please. Beyond that, hey, whatever.

Steaks, on the other hand: the redder the better. :p

[Moogie]

Burgers, steaks, :moon: roast, whatever floats your boat, cooked to order. We've got a rather large bbq/smoker out back so we can handle any needs. Besides, IB has promised to cart over the fridge, so what more would we need.

No, it's not a thong, but that was a good guess.

Onwards and forwards and into the mooooooooooooorrrrrk. :D

[Basman]

Originally posted by Marcelloz
blah blah blah the only thing keeping DPC from the #1 spot is the numerous team hoppers. No sport at all.

So until we don't see any increase in your daily output, we just laugh at your hilarious attempt to scare us with empty words. :rotfl:

No reply's, so no one argues with that :D

[Anteraan]

Originally posted by magnav0x
*gasp* Is that a thong Moogie!
Naw, it looks more like one of those necklace things worn around the hips. In actuality, she's probably not wearing any underwear.

In other news related to the original topic of this thread, it appears that Fozzie has procured for me the 1 Terawatt generator and a working prototype of...
A FLUX CAPACITOR!!! :scared:

The electric fence should be getting quite a boost once these components are in place. :p

[bwkaz]

But, um, all capacitors have flux; that's why they work... Well, electric flux at least (that is, a changing electric field). During charging and discharging, in any case (the field is proportional to either the charge on the plates, or the square of that charge, I don't remember exactly).

</nitpicking>

I'm sorry, I had to. ;)

Now that terawatt generator, on the other hand... :scared:

[G_M_C]

According to this:

http://wibble.bounceme.net/Sneakers/graph_base.php?line=1&period=t_weekly&max_UID=10&TID1=81&UID1=4294967295&TID2=78&UID2=4294967295&TID3=5&UID3=4294967295&TID4=685&UID4=4294967295&TID5=1822&UID5=4294967295&TID6=194&UID6=4294967295&TID7=2908&UID7=4294967295&TID8=560&UID8=4294967295&TID9=631&UID9=4294967295&TID10=1931&UID10=4294967295

Your production has to rise at least 15 million / day just to EQUAL ours.

It would be a great effort to do so, but then who knows . . .

[Anteraan]

G_M_C,

That's almost exactly what I said before you started your Stampede. I wish I had time to find the post, but I don't. Great job so far!

[G_M_C]

Originally posted by Anteraan
G_M_C,

That's almost exactly what I said before you started your Stampede. I wish I had time to find the post, but I don't. Great job so far!

It's a nice battle so far indeed; For that: I'm anxious to see what the Fozz will be up to, and than see what I / we can do to counter it.

It's looking more and more like an EPIC battle to the top.

Greetz

[Fozzie]

Who's to say there may or may not be some SERIOUS :dump: coming sometime in the not too distant future.

Then DPC will be :notworthy to the might of Free DC.

Keep watching guys the Tsunami is building.

The way to stop the Mooers is chop the head off and that'll put pay to all the udders. :rotfl:

[Pskutte]

Originally posted by Fozzie
Who's to say there may or may not be some SERIOUS :dump: coming sometime in the not too distant future.

Then DPC will be :notworthy to the might of Free DC.

Keep watching guys the Tsunami is building.

If this is true, you can flush more than us for just 1 day! But you need at about 300 computers extra to produce an equal output every day.

If I were you guys, i would scream for :help: . We will get the first place.

[Basman]

Originally posted by bwkaz
Ehh? What's going on?

/me thinks he missed something... checks his PM's, no, nothing there... :scratch: ;)

No PM yet?? :D :D :D :D

:moon:

[Fozzie]

with pushing packages out to boxen and hatching the cascading dump plan I have been busy.

Patience young padawan mooer.

[Marcelloz]

I think it's wiser that you put your boxes on D2OL. FreeDC needs your help over there far more than at DF :D

[Fozzie]

I think we are doing pretty well on that one.

[bwkaz]

Originally posted by Basman
No PM yet?? :D :D :D :D

:moon: I didn't say that (you were right, but that's not the point ;))... maybe I just don't want to give our strategy away.

:p

[Fozzie]

Soon you padawan mooers.:D

[Marcelloz]

Bring it on! :tramp:

[guru]

Fozzie, try not to overcook mine. I like my beef red on the inside. :taz:

guru

[pfb]

Originally posted by G_M_C
According to this:

http://wibble.bounceme.net/Sneakers/graph_base.php?line=1&period=t_weekly&max_UID=10&TID1=81&UID1=4294967295&TID2=78&UID2=4294967295&TID3=5&UID3=4294967295&TID4=685&UID4=4294967295&TID5=1822&UID5=4294967295&TID6=194&UID6=4294967295&TID7=2908&UID7=4294967295&TID8=560&UID8=4294967295&TID9=631&UID9=4294967295&TID10=1931&UID10=4294967295

Your production has to rise at least 15 million / day just to EQUAL ours.

It would be a great effort to do so, but then who knows . . .

you Free-DC'ers do know he said 'rise' :p

http://wibble.bounceme.net/misc/fdc_rate.png http://wibble.bounceme.net/misc/fdc_rate2.png

I think that is the lowest I've seen your rates for some time...

[Fozzie]

wouldn't it be too easy for the mooers to just bring in some strays if we just upped our hourly production.

That would just be too predictable now wouldn't it.

Op. BeefSteak is far more devious. :cool:

[G_M_C]

Originally posted by Fozzie
wouldn't it be too easy for the mooers to just bring in some strays if we just upped our hourly production.

That would just be too predictable now wouldn't it.

Op. BeefSteak is far more devious. :cool:

It's starting to sound like hot air to me. Like Marcelloz said . . . bring it on.

[pfb]

:p

just pointing that not only are the Cows outproducing you, so are Ars...:crazy:

doesn't matter one way or another (although the overall production rate for DF has dropped)...

[Fozzie]

we have nothing to stop the cow onslaught , we are but grist to your mighty mill.

How foolish I was to even think we could hold of your illustrious might.

As we know though as with your football you can't hold on to a lead to save your life now can you. :D

[Marcelloz]

Originally posted by Fozzie
we have nothing to stop the cow onslaught , we are but grist to your mighty mill.

How foolish I was to even think we could hold of your illustrious might.

As we know though as with your football you can't hold on to a lead to save your life now can you. :D
Well, do I have to remind you of your fantastic play against France? (assuming you are an Englishman) :D

[Fozzie]

Err....I was kinda trying to forget that.

tell you what when we win tonight I'll come back and give you a hard time about not qualifying for the next phase ;)

[Marcelloz]

Originally posted by Fozzie
Err....I was kinda trying to forget that.

tell you what when we win tonight I'll come back and give you a hard time about not qualifying for the next phase ;)
England - France : 1-2
Kroatia - France : 2-2

Looking at those results, I can only conclude that this will be the result of this evenings' match:

England - Kroatia : 1-2

:stomp: :D

[Hagar]

And here I thought I would be safe from the football madness in the world of distributed computing.... :hair: :D

[magicfan241]

It's soccer they are talking about....


what does soccer have to do with DC?

I like teams from France....and USA....and Australia.


Never watched any of it, but I think England will win, only because I don't know where the other team is from :)


magicfan241

[magnav0x]

Isn't it spelled Croatia? :confused: It's between Bosnia and Hungary (not far from Austria)

[gopher_yarrowzoo]

Darn it Captain - Shaft settings on Warp Engine shot the engine to bits...
Well DFGui & the cli don't seem to mix well when running on a s/ware Router / Firewall box - it kept killing the machine darn it - Sorry dudes no DF for me until I get another box up and can figure out how to get it running smoothly on Linux...

[Welnic]

Originally posted by magicfan241
It's soccer they are talking about....


what does soccer have to do with DC?

I like teams from France....and USA....and Australia.


Never watched any of it, but I think England will win, only because I don't know where the other team is from :)


magicfan241

Soccer is called football in most of the rest of the world. Football is called American football. :D

[Marcelloz]

Originally posted by magnav0x
Isn't it spelled Croatia? :confused:
:blush: Of course you are completely right :D

England won! :thumbs:

[gopher_yarrowzoo]

*ouch* Just got Trampled *ouch* Oh well only got both arms broken, both legs and am typing this with my nose on what is left of my pc...
Stomped all over

[Moogie]

:|ot|: Let's go back to :stomp: :cow: :D

As for football...Gooo Niners! (oh wait, that's American football) :D

/me wonders if I can still be a fan of the 49ers even though I live with Peaches

:viking:

[Fozzie]

Free DC Number 1 for hourly and daily production, alnd all those stored gens ready for the dumpage too.

Oops not supposed to tell the mooers that.

Notice to all Mooers please disregard the statement above.

:moon:

[Welnic]

They are saving up for a huge dump to try to pass us from 500,000 behind. They love their huge dumps.

[pfb]

:eek: at the last DPC (sf) dump of 26 million - they certainly can dump well...

[Marcelloz]

Originally posted by Fozzie
Free DC Number 1 for hourly and daily production, alnd all those stored gens ready for the dumpage too.

Oops not supposed to tell the mooers that.

Notice to all Mooers please disregard the statement above.

:moon:

Well see ... in the end ... who has ... stored .... the most ... :moon:

and we also have a secret weapon


:haddock:


eh, I suppose I shouldn't tell you that

Please all non-mooers, ignore that statement about that weapon

[Moogie]

Originally posted by Marcelloz
Well see ... in the end ... who has ... stored .... the most ... :moon:

and we also have a secret weapon


:haddock:


eh, I suppose I shouldn't tell you that

Please all non-mooers, ignore that statement about that weapon

Bah...I LAUGH in the face of your weapons (said in heavy Russion accent)

Mmuaaaahahahahahaha...Sir Fozzie, enough of this nonsense. Are you ready comrade?

:sniper: :whip: :fight: :stomp: :viking: :gangpunch :tramp:

[Pskutte]

I think you're quite optimistic about just one person...

At DPC we are all optimistic about the whole group :) this is what makes us stronger than any team in the world!


Only the fact that you are not talking much with each other (not much replies in every thread) about DF, makes your group less connected/powerfull than the DPC!!!

[Paratima]

:jester: :rotfl: :lmao:

[Moogie]

Originally posted by Pskutte
I think you're quite optimistic about just one person...

At DPC we are all optimistic about the whole group :) this is what makes us stronger than any team in the world!


Only the fact that you are not talking much with each other (not much replies in every thread) about DF, makes your group less connected/powerfull than the DPC!!!


1) Who says we were talking about one person? :D

2) As far as not talking with one another, have you heard of pm's? :D


:elephant: :elephant: :elephant: :elephant: :elephant: :elephant:

[FoBoT]

if y'all haven't read the news from stardragon, ya need to

this could impact the free/cow race quite a bit

:machgun: :cow:

[bwkaz]

Originally posted by Pskutte
Only the fact that you are not talking much with each other (not much replies in every thread) about DF, makes your group less connected/powerfull than the DPC!!! Hah! We don't need to post in order to communicate. We can just read each others' minds!

:crazy: :crazy:

As FoBoT says:

:machgun: :cow:

[magnav0x]

At DPC we are all optimistic about the whole group this is what makes us stronger than any team in the world!

I'd be a bit emerassed if 217 members is taking this long to catch 37 members. With nearly a 6:1 active member ratio that would be like Free-DC cranking full force trying to catch a 6 member team...
:scratch: :dunno: :rotfl:

Quality over quanity ;)

[IronBits]

:drink: :stupid: :cheers: :walking:

[G_M_C]

Okay there's laughing and truth - Doing the math:

Teams overall @ 1/1/2004
FDC=4.444.060.804
DPC=889.425.160

Teams overall @ 24/6/2004
FDC=15.186.426.839
DPC=14.718.821.391

Difference in production 1/1/2004 -- 24/6/2004:
Diff. FDC=15.186.426.839 -/- 4.444.060.804 = 10.742.366.035
Diff. DPC=14.718.821.391 -/- 889.425.160 = 13.829.396.231

Doing the math:
Output DPC vs. Output FDC in %:
13.829.396.231 / 10.742.366.035 x 100% ~ 129 %

Output FDC vs. Output DPC in %:
10.742.366.035 / 13.829.396.231 x 100% ~78%

Translation of the numbers:
DPC is doing on average 129% of FDC's output.
Or, in other words
FDC's output is only 78% of our output.

This is measured over more than 6 months (1/1/2004 -- 24/6/2004)

The conclusion based on the numbers:
We're doing a (much) bigger output than you guys measured over a longer period of time. That also means that 1 flush of FDC will only prospone te inevitable, because of our average higher output.

Forecast:
FDC will have to flush and/or inplement their plan in a hurry; in about one week the 145-gen will be replaced. This is also true for DPC.

This means the forecast is: A showdown between FDC and DPC within the next 1 to 2 weeks. Their flushing-powers will meet in a battle of epic proportions.

Dumping of not-before-seen huge amouts of gens will probably test the servers to their max. Hope df has printed enough tickets for all gens that want entrance to the server.

Only time will tell who wins . . . And time is running short.

But based on the numbers DPC WILL TAKE #1

[Fozzie]

...doesn't it.

[FoBoT]

saving/dumping doesn't work during CASP , with protein changes every week, if you don't get your gens. uploaded ASAP, you might not get them in for credit.

there was no grace period for credit during the last CASP (IIRC) , that benefit was added later. i don't know how that will work, but i don't think they'll be able to extend it , so online crunchers have an advantage over saver/dumpers during the quick turnarounds of CASP

[G_M_C]

Originally posted by FoBoT
saving/dumping doesn't work during CASP , with protein changes every week, if you don't get your gens. uploaded ASAP, you might not get them in for credit.

there was no grace period for credit during the last CASP (IIRC) , that benefit was added later. i don't know how that will work, but i don't think they'll be able to extend it , so online crunchers have an advantage over saver/dumpers during the quick turnarounds of CASP

That's why my forecast. FDC & DPC will have to fush before CASP starts. And that will be in 1 to 2 weeks from now.

Hence the upcoming "battle of epic proportions" & "the not-before-seen huge dumps"

[[DPC] Japie_17]

Originally posted by magnav0x
I'd be a bit emerassed if 217 members is taking this long to catch 37 members. With nearly a 6:1 active member ratio that would be like Free-DC cranking full force trying to catch a 6 member team...
:scratch: :dunno: :rotfl:

Quality over quanity ;) Yeah, but that 31 members have a lot more boxen each than one DPC members has. And that has some advantages, for example, we can lose sf and MrMr and still outperform you. MrMr is doing only 400.000 a day and sf wasn't flushing anything until yesterday. So, we can lose a lot of members and still score well, while you can't, because one leaving/ retiring member has a lot more impact.

[Fozzie]

threatened our supremacy. TBH very few of our bigger crunchers are anything like fully switched on to DF at the moment with gauntlets elsewhere.

When you do catch up and maybe pass us that is when the :fight: will start.

Major respect to you guys you have doine what Ars couldn't.:cheers:

You do realise that getting here is not even half of the job.

:elephant:

[G_M_C]

Originally posted by Fozzie
threatened our supremacy. TBH very few of our bigger crunchers are anything like fully switched on to DF at the moment with gauntlets elsewhere.

When you do catch up and maybe pass us that is when the :fight: will start.

Major respect to you guys you have doine what Ars couldn't.:cheers:

You do realise that getting here is not even half of the job.

:elephant:

Okay okay, we will see. The battle is coming sooner than planned anyway.

But to equal your claim: I'd like to remind you about a phenomenon called "STAMPEDE".

[Scotttheking]

Fozzie, I accidentally deleted your email, how many GHz did you say you needed?

I'll be spending tomorrow working on the farm, gotta upgrade the backbone to gigE to handle all the new power :cool:

Holler when you want the boxes to go online.

[MrMr]

Originally posted by Scotttheking
Fozzie, I accidentally deleted your email, how many GHz did you say you needed?


Check out
http://teamstats.macnn.com/dfold/stats.php?page=b2&TID=5
and
http://teamstats.macnn.com/dfold/stats.php?page=b2&TID=81

And you'll see the answer is 449.

That is, assuming you are folding off-line at least as much as we are doing of course.

;)

[Fozzie]

Mailed you again, hope you have it all ready to go. Good of you MacNN dudes to respond to the call, with you guys and Lemonsqzz looks like we will have enough to put the mooers out to grass, even if they stampede again.

Bring it on mooers, Operation BeefSteak is in place.

[Scotttheking]

Ok, I actually saved it all this time. Sorry about the delay, had some problems crimping, and I'm short some cables. Heading to the store tonight to pick them up, and I figure, while I'm at it, I'll put the huge overtime check I got into some new systems for the home farm.
:p <<< to the cows

[G_M_C]

We're all prepared for the Muppet's show .

:cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow:

[guru]

As the black night says "None shall pass!" :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:

guru

[Darkness Productions]

Gandalf the Grey said it better, IMHO....

YOU.... SHALL NOT.... PASS!


Originally posted by guru
As the black night says "None shall pass!" :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:

guru

[IronBits]

New information from Stardragon :)

The first CASP target to be run on Distributed Folding will be released through a protein update on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 at 10:30 am EST.

Please make sure to upload your buffered results ahead of time, as we only have approximately 1 week for each target

[bwkaz]

Originally posted by Darkness Productions
Gandalf the Grey said it better, IMHO.... Gandalf may have said it better, but the Black Knight said it funnier... :p

"Now stand aside, worthy adversary."

"'Tis but a scratch."

"A scratch! Your arm's off!"

"No it isn't!"

"Well what's that then?"

"I've had worse."

"You lie!"

<more fighting>

"Look you stupid <well, I probably ought not...>, you've got no arms left!"

"Yes I have."

"Look!"

<Black Knight pauses>

"It's just a flesh wound."

:p

[willy1]

/me checks -

Nope- this isn't the "Knights Who Say Ni!" forum.

[em99010pepe]

Don't forget that Free-DC is going to do with DPC the same thing that yesterday Portugal did to Holland.


Click here (http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S22/E6106/sport_Lng0_Spo22_Evt6106_Sto608372.shtml)

[bwkaz]

Originally posted by willy1
/me checks -

Nope- this isn't the "Knights Who Say Ni!" forum. That's probably good -- the Black Knight is not one of the Knights Who Say Ni. Nor is he one of the Knights Who Until So Recently Said Ni.

But I suppose that never stopped anybody else, so...

:D

[[DPC] Japie_17]

Originally posted by bwkaz
Gandalf may have said it better, but the Black Knight said it funnier... :p

"Now stand aside, worthy adversary."

"'Tis but a scratch."

"A scratch! Your arm's off!"

"No it isn't!"

"Well what's that then?"

"I've had worse."

"You lie!"

<more fighting>

"Look you stupid <well, I probably ought not...>, you've got no arms left!"

"Yes I have."

"Look!"

<Black Knight pauses>

"It's just a flesh wound."

:p Aaah, I like Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I like it so much that I have never turned on the subtitles for people who don't like the movie :p.

But Fozzie is quite sure that we should fear the might of FreeDC, I hope he has his calculations right and that is isn't just something that will end up as a good laugh for DPC. :rotfl:

[Paratima]

What's your objection to a good laugh? :blues:

[Moogie]

Laughing does a body good. :) (so long as it is the right person doing the laughing) ;)

[MarcyDarcy]

Stats are down, we can't flush so we can't overtake #1. Was this the secret weapon against us mooers? :spank:

thanks Fozzie for the brilliant plan :gone: