What is going to be next...?

[Thor]

Just thougth we should collect that in a seperate thread...


I'm searching for a new medical related project which should be running under Windows as well as Linux...

Bandwith is not a problem since I have a 3Mbit DSL connection with 40kb/s upload.

I dont need any sneakernet capabilities...

But what I want is either a client with lots of control and monitoring or third party tools which can do that....

Ease of use and stability would be nice, too :)

Right now I only have one machine with an XP 1800+ ...but I shall find more power..

So what are your recommandations?


Thor



sad about DF...

[Guilherme]

I recommend Find-A-Drug:

http://www.find-a-drug.org/ (http://www.find-a-drug.org)

[Bok]

D2OL or TSC

Bok :D

[em99010pepe]

TSC

TSC stats:

http://d2ol.childhooddiseases.org/stats/topTeams.jsp
http://stats.free-dc.org/tsc/
http://www.vadp.com/index.php?lang=2&site=0&rows=10000&id=0&team=0&user=
http://12.3.177.174:6969/TSC/team_stats.php
http://speedkikker.nl.eu.org/tsc/index.php?mode=TeamStat&prefix=tsc&tabel=teamOffset


Carlos

[ronbo54]

D2OL

We're a lot closer to the top and a lot fewer heavy hitters at this time

Let's go for #1

:elephant: :elephant: :elephant:

Of course, crunch what you like here :thumbs:

Free-DC :cheers:

[PCZ]

I vote with ronbo54

Lets hit D2OL hard and go for No1.

[magicfan241]

D2OL is one where #1 sounds good!!


:)


Do it!


magicfan241

[Bok]

Interesting challenge. It would be tough to get #1, but hey why not :) If we got some of the heavy hitters to sign up, we 'd be on course :cheers:

Bok :D

[Evilmoose]

Ill get things rolling:Pokes:

[Bok]

I noticed!!!!

[Thor]

Then D2OL it shall be...


And my first question about it: can I have multiple boxen running the same ID?

where are those third party tolls at?


Greets Thor

Edit: Forgot one question: What is the difference between Candidates and Conformers?

[MerePeer]

Originally posted by Thor
[...] can I have multiple boxen running the same ID?

where are those third party tolls at?

I don't think the D2OL team has said they support multiple boxen w/same ID, but it seems to work.

According to the general FAQ here (http://www.d2ol.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000636)



Q: Is there a third party program so I can monitor my clients progress and not have to have the Java GUI open?
A: Yes there is, malör has kindly written a program for members named DSpy. It has real time monitoring capabilities as well as many node statistics. DSpy is a Windows only program but DSpython is also available for Linux users that have the Python language installed on their computer, both can be found here. DSpy will also monitor D2OL's sister project, CommunityTSC. Please note, this software is unsupported by D2OL and it's staff, any questions should be sent to malör via a Private Message


Also worth noting, we have our own D2OL (and TSC) monitoring application that runs under Linux and Windows (and Mac etc), link is here:
http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6568
I wrote it; I use it. Reply to that thread if you have Qs.

[Welnic]

I'm also looking for where to deploy my boxen when df shuts down. I'm leaning toward something medical. FAD is out for me as there is no OSX client. I am leaning toward D20L instead of TSC.

I have managed to get D20L installed on my home OSX box, though it was a pain to get two copies installed. I figured out how to shut down the GUI, but there is a bug with the client and the latest java upgrade where a little window from hell shows up in the upper left corner. That I can all live with though.

I have java installed on my private linux farm, I had to do that to get dfProgress to work. That works great by the way, I use it to monitor the whole linux farm with my OSX box at work. But it seems really hard to install D20L on linux without a gui. 8 of my 12 processors are just barebones with no gui. I guess I can eventually get something figured out, but I'm not looking forward to it.

But the main problem I think that I will have will be with windows. These are mostly running Windows XP, and they are borged coworker boxen. So the client has to really not slow things down, which seems to be an issue with D20L. It also has to run as a service, though I guess most things can be installed as a service. I am going to play around with it on my XP box at work and see what I think.

I have been running Climate Prediction some, and BOINC seems to work pretty well, other than downloading new work when I am just trying to benchmark a new version. It has a built in service install and seems pretty easy to deal with. I might end up running predictor@home, or I might stick with cp.

[Bok]

Welnic, there is a small trick to installing on linux without gui.

untar the distro,

cd SengentD2OL/D2OL/res

edit general.prp

make LaunchMain=false

cd ..

and then launch with

./D2OL controller:cli

Much much easier :)

For the priorities on windows, see Digital Parasite's thread for D2OL Daddy.. I'm sure there are others who have installed it as a service too.

Bok

[FoBoT]

Bok's instructions for TSC/D2OL in linux/no java worked for me, it isn't too hard after you have done it a couple times

:blues:

[Welnic]

Well, the linux install worked with no problems at all. :cheers:

I'm glad I said something before I tried it.

Now to see if I can get the windows version to behave. I guess that I could install D20L Daddy as a service also?

[MerePeer]

re: prio
Under Linux is where I have seen D2OL priority be an issue (uses 10, not the lowest 19; whereas DF ran at 19). Under Win the D2OL.exe 'launcher' does run at normal pri, but it launches the DockWin and GridWin at low pri. After a few days of 24/7 activity the D2OL.exe has used 1 min of cpu time.

re: win svc
I run the D2OL (and the D2OLProgressNode) as services using SRVANY, using controller: file. I can post the .reg file I use if you want. However it doesnt shutdown properly using a service. The proper way to shutdown is to edit the control.prp file and change the line "Shutdown=false" into "Shutdown=true", then stop the service. If you figure out how to make the windows service do this, let me know (maybe if it ran a .bat file instead of directly running d2ol?)! However under Linux in my /etc/init/u_d2ol script I have the "stop" action simply replace the control.prp file with a copy that has the "Shutdown=true" in it (BUT REALLY this should use sed & awk to just modify control.prp ... ).
Also, under win, dont forget to add the -Xrs line to your D2OL.lax file -- a thread over in D2OL I posted a while back has the how-to. This is needed to prevent windows login/out activity from killing your D2OL.

Also, if you use the D2OL install that has the bundled JRE, then you can use that java to run D2OLProgressNodes and avoid installing java separately.

I don't have a "D2OLForwarder" -- is that something you need for you remote monitoring? I was thinking of having D2OLProgress outputing html to a local file for now, but let me know.

[Digital Parasite]

Originally posted by Bok
and then launch with

./D2OL controller:cli

Yes, and one more tip, in Linux if you launch with:

nice -n 19 ./D2OL controller:cli

It will make D2OL spawn all its processes at the nicest level and not interfere with anything else on your Linux box.

Jeff.

[magnav0x]

hrmmm.....I guess I'll help out once DF is through with. Been a long time since I ran D2OL and it was a nice stable client. See you guys on the flip side :thumbs:

[Death]

http://www.free-dc.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=38
http://seventeenorbust.com

[[DPC]My]

Good luck with trying to get to #1 :p

The DPC don't think you will get there :rotfl:

;)

[Fozzie]

we shall see, The DPC underestimated us in DF, looks like you're going the same way in D2OL.

We'll whet our appetite on the smaller Fry ;) (Ok so not quite correct but hey) and then we'll see how it goes.

[Pconfig]

Beware for DPC. We have a large DF team too maybe they'll switch to D2OL too. Who knows? :cool:

[Fear-factoR]

Originally posted by Fozzie
, The DPC underestimated us in DF, looks like you're going the same way in D2OL.

yeah right... underestimated... maybe the hops and the early cancelation of the project...
From the beginning of this year we owned you 18.31 to 16,15 Billion points (and that's hops included)
@d2ol we have a head start of 5.2 Million, so first come with some good crunching and then we will talk further :sleepy:
We will not let our hard earned #1 be taken away so easily by some spin-off DF-crunchers ;)

Btw, juding by all the nervous topics about us, your still ****ing paranoia about us overtaking you in the last days of the project :Pokes: :rotfl:
http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7516
http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7368

[PCZ]

Fear-factoR

Considering how many active members you have your performance was very weak.
DPC should be ashamed that they couldn't beat a team with less than one tenth the active members.

Free-DC have shown how a dedicated band of Spartans can topple any Giants
:cheers:

[Welnic]

Originally posted by Fear-factoR
yeah right... underestimated... maybe the hops and the early cancelation of the project...
<-cut->


So how long were you planning on running the project? And why did you cancel it early?

[Fear-factoR]

Originally posted by PCZ
Fear-factoR

Considering how many active members you have your performance was very weak.
DPC should be ashamed that they couldn't beat a team with less than one tenth the active members.

Free-DC have shown how a dedicated band of Spartans can topple any Giants
:cheers:
Not every team is blessed with loads of system administrators with 100 or so computers at their disposal, DPC is a team with fanatic smalltime crunchers. http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/hypocrite.gif

[Fear-factoR]

Originally posted by Welnic
So how long were you planning on running the project? And why did you cancel it early?
That's not my call, I was just explaining you got lucky... But @ d2ol we will not roll over and say *arf arf!

[PCZ]

Fear-factoR

Please dont assume that anyone with high production is a system admin.

There are some extremely dedicated people at Free-DC who buy and maintain there own farms.

PS
MrMr is a system admin is he not ?