Rating problem..

[Bok]

I've been going through and cataloging my PC's recently and have come across an odd problem. One of the PC's is an XP2700 but only gets a FAD rating of 170, whereas my other XP2700's are in the 240's ?

I've checked that it is running at correct speed, which it is ~ 2.1Ghz, so I don't understand it?

This is just another of my blades, so nothing else running on it.

Any ideas?

Perhaps I'll just re-install FAD /shrug

Bok

[em99010pepe]

Bok,

I have an AMD 64 3000+ (2Ghz) and I get 177!

Carlos

[IronBits]

It would do really well on a math project :)
I have the same problem with my AMD64 3200+ (2GHz)
I'm running SOB secondpass at the moment.

[Bok]

hmmm,

well my AMD64's are running SoB right now, but here is an output of my machines running FAD.

http://stats.free-dc.org/FADProgress.html

It doesn't have the cpu speeds on there though. (MeerPeer, would it be possible get these?)

on linux you could use 'cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep MHz| cut -d: -f2'

Bok

[PCZ]

Reinstalling fad might not got the rating back to normal.

Probably a lib problem.


BTW
What is Blade 9 ?

[rsbriggs]

And is there any chance we could get a link to FADProgress put on the utility page? I'm using FADSpy, but the newer versions have severe bugs...

Is it possible that it's a different core than the others ?

Using Intels as an example, I have one 3.0 Ghz Prescott core box that is HORRIBLE at FaD (rated at something around 94), far outperformed by a 2.8 GHz Intel with a (I'm trying to remember...) Northwood (?) core or any AMD box.

(I think the AMD 1200+ box I just gave away beat it with a 96 rating.)

[dannychuckle]

it might be becasue the score takes into consideration previous benchmarks as well as the latest one, so if ya look in that node's tlg file you might see its score creeping back up over time - one low benchmark can drag it down for a while, but it all averages out in the end. 240 is a very high score tho ;)

[Bok]

Originally posted by PCZ
Reinstalling fad might not got the rating back to normal.

Probably a lib problem.


BTW
What is Blade 9 ?

You mean one of the libraries it's using is out of date ? I'll check.

I *think* it's an XP2800 just slightly overclocked.

[root@Blade9 root]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 8
model name : AMD Athlon(tm)
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 2255.124
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips : 4495.76

It does get a consistently high rating!

[MerePeer]

My progress...held up by Mother's day chores, and Friday I lost my laptop harddrive. Ouch. However I do have a fix for that infrequent HTML failure in FADProgress which I'll post. I may as well give Bok an html page so he can post/host it under utilities like we did for D2OLProgress - <edit> if that's ok with you Bok? </edit>

RE: rating on that blade.
As someone mentioned, if this is a transient issue then your historic ratings would be higher. To report all the historic ratings do a
grep rating *.tlg
If the start of the tlg had high ratings, significantly above 170, then something is going on there -- possibly a FIND or a CUPS deamon or something gone wrong and time to look at the cron jobs, top, memory/swap issues, etc.
Remember that even if there is a problem and you fix it and then reboot, the rating will not immediately jump up too much since the rating is an average of the load while computing that entire job. Ratings appear to be adjusted, gradually, every 10 mins. And note: a fadprogressd daemon will only check for a newer rating once every 10 mins.

Of course, if you told us that node was running Windoze and the rest were *nix, we'd know immediately what the problem was. ;)

[Bok]

it's a gentoo nix box.

I just did the grep and your right, looks like this was teh box I seem to remember that was running at 100FSB for some time after a CMOS problem, so there are a load of ratings for around 85 in there.

Mystery solved!

:cheers:

Bok

[meep]

Just a quicky re XP 2X00+ CPU's and the ideal clock settings for a high FAD rating...

I have 2100+ running at 2200mhz (200 x 11)
I also have a 2600+ running at 2200mhz (200 x 11)

Now both of these perform extremely well in Benchmarks but their FAD ratings are only about 210'ish.

Any suggestions?

[PCZ]

meep
Your ratings are correct if running windows.

If you want higher ratings use linux.

[meep]

ah ok - i thought it would be something like that.

I am going to be moving towards a bootable linux setup when I get some time. I have a server ready to build up for the purpose - any recommended OS's for that part of the system - also, does it have to also be the DHCP server for optimum performance/usability?

Also PCZ - did u happen to see my PM about a bios for the v2.0 nf7-s mobo - I have not been able to make that version boot without a graphics card, even using the method you suggested.... im stumped.

[PCZ]

meep

I am trying to remember what I did with the NF7 it was a while ago.

What I do remember is that you must not cache the video rom.
Also set video card to PCI.

In modbin you have a choice of setup and bios set both options to disable video rom caching.

The PXE server can be your DHCP server, works best that way.
Just turn off the DHCP Server in your BB Router.

If you go for a single network, setup is easy, if you dual home the PXE server things are a little harder to set up.

You have quite a choice of distros that could be used.
If you aren't a nix Guru I would suggest Red Hat.

[FluffyChicken]

Originally posted by MerePeer
... Ratings appear to be adjusted, gradually, every 10 mins ....
Of course, if you told us that node was running Windoze and the rest were *nix, we'd know immediately what the problem was. ;)

It benchmarks every ten minutes, but only writes to the log file if the rating (cumulative) has changed since the last time.


Shame Linux setups are still gaining higher rating than windows, what Linux setups are you using are these all Debian based ?

[Bok]

I use mainly Gentoo.

Bok

[FluffyChicken]

Good :)

I'm about to play with http://www.flashlinux.org.uk/ which is Gentoo based.

I've just tried Fedora Core 4 (whatever stage they are at) but it's not playing well with any of my computer). that and the Pen drive is a much neater idea :)

[meep]

Ok cheers,

Whenever I attempt to open a .bin file with Modbin 4.5x.xx etc it brings up a checksum error. The new version modbin6 i think it is, opens the file but does not seem to offer any of the options that I need...

I run Server 2003 / ISA and the DHCP server on that, so big config changes are on the horizon... I am no Linux guru but do have good knowledge of Redhat shell cmd's etc. I will get the server built, stealthed and setup then look at net-boot nodes when that is stable. I am not dual homing no, that just overcomplicates everything.

[LAURENU2]

Originally posted by FluffyChicken
Shame Linux setups are still gaining higher rating than windows, what Linux setups are you using are these all Debian based ?
Ya tell me about it I do more jobs, find more Hit and Do it in less time then anyone and I still get 30% less points them other members :swear: :trash: :swear:

[Bok]

Originally posted by LAURENU2
Ya tell me about it I do more jobs, find more Hit and Do it in less time then anyone and I still get 30% less points them other members :swear: :trash: :swear:

Lauren,

would you be interested in attempting a linux install ? I could guide you through a Gentoo stage3 install fairly easily I think.

Once installed, you only need to know a few things to maintain it.

Bok

[Mustard]

Hmmmm..... raises an interesting question or two though. I have one system crunching away on windows on fad. It has been working on the same one for a few days now. So either I have a monster in waiting, or the windows app just doesn't run like the linux one. Right or wrong??

[Fozzie]

if it is a qm3 or uu3 it could last a while, especially if the PC is medium spec.

What's the rating and query?

[Mustard]

Originally posted by Fozzie
if it is a qm3 or uu3 it could last a while, especially if the PC is medium spec.

What's the rating and query?


It's a qm3 on an XP2100 W2K. So I guess maybe these things have a few points when they finish?

[LAURENU2]

Bok That might be a good idea I only need about 12 or so nodes that I use .
The other 50 can change over But it might be better ti start it in the OS sec.

LEXX as far as I see the M$ OS is a bit slower the Linux about 3% to 5% But they miss hits that a windows box will find
If this Box is a windows cruncher and is used for browsing the INTERNET then check for spy ware with Ad-Aware SE or anti virus as spy ware can add 20% to your time and take off CPU points

[meep]

Bok, I would also be extremely interested in that info, as I wish to do the same shortly but not on the same scale.

[Fozzie]

that could easily go 3 or 4 days.

[Mustard]

Originally posted by Fozzie
that could easily go 3 or 4 days.


Yup! :) Well it's around 90% now, so at least it is getting closer. I do think though that I will switch that system over to linux when this WU finishes. Getting better performance out of the linux boxes.

[Bok]

Sure,

it really is pretty simple as long as you don't have outlandish hardware. It can even be done remotely if you can create an ssh tunnel to the box after booting it with a gentoo LiveCD :)

Bok

[LAURENU2]

Ok Bok
Start from the start
What Linux OS should I get to make the install CD's
What is the Min memory needed
What size HD and or min. HD size==I have a few nodes that only have 850 MB HD's
Vid onboard or card

[Bok]

Let's try gentoo first.

Go to gentoo.org and follow the downloads (pick a mirror from here (http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml) and follow to releases/x86/2005.0/installcd) to get a livecd iso. Pick the universal .iso. Burn it as an image to a disc (not data, it has to be bootable)

Try booting it on one of your PC's. If you have a DHCP server you should be all set, if not we'll have to do a few commands to configure the IP address / routing.

Might be best to wait until the weekend as I'm Florida until friday night, but it's worth trying a boot at least, won't hurt anything else :)

As for HD, 850 might be pushing it a little for Gentoo, but we could probably pare it down somewhat if needed. There are many other distros which would easily fit in 850 though.

Vid card is irrelevant once running. This will be in text mode, no desktop :)

Memory footprint of linux is pretty small, so you can probably get away with 128Mb (I think FaD has a low memory footprint too?) but I tend to have 256min in all my machines anyway.

How mush if anything do know about linux?

You will be using the commandline only here, but very few commands will actually be needed.

Bok

[LAURENU2]

How mush if anything do know about linux?
ha ha I think it is like DOS and I sucked at that till dos shell came out
And was in heaven when windows 3.0 came out

But I can follow instructions well ask my wife:bonk:

[Scoofy12]

My opinion probably doesnt have a place in here since i'm not the one ponying up my time to help someone out, but is gentoo really the best choice for a first timer? i never got it quite right when i tried it, and i was already an experienced debian user!