Barbecue time

[Fozzie]

OK all those of you who feel like giving The Cows a bit of a roasting should start thinking of installing clients and getting them heated up over the weekend ready for the full assault to begin on Tuesday.

We cannot afford to be complacent as they could close the gap we have on them fairly quickly, as we have seen from them before.

So if you are up for it now is as good a time as any.

[n7vxj]

Got all of my boxen running at full tilt now.I have 1 more scheduled to arrive on the 1st, compliments of Bok, and the contest, and it will be online crunchin as quick as possible!!!:Pokes:

[Bok]

almost 2 more heading your way actually n7vxj ;)

Bok

[em99010pepe]

Stopping all machines. Switching to FAD.

Carlos

[PY 222]

Running on all cylinders!

Will try to get my hands on more if possible.

[rsbriggs]

:nicow: :cow: :nicow:

[Moogie]

I've tapped all that I have. Not much but it helps pay the bills. :D

[MAB]

Originally posted by rsbriggs
:nicow: :cow: :nicow:

You know it's useless :jester: So why bother :confused: :confused: :confused:

[rsbriggs]

Yes, I'm sure that you're all asking yourselves that question. But don't get so disappointed before you even get started. You'll be able to challenge us at least a little...

Yumm! Barbeque....

:nicow:

[MAB]

Originally posted by rsbriggs
Yes, I'm sure that you're all asking yourselves that question. But don't get so disappointed before you even get started. You'll be able to challenge us at least a little...

Yumm! Barbeque....

:nicow:
Yes, you're wright :D
Not more than a little and then we have to look for another REAL challenge :smoking:
We hope you'll not be too disappointed and won't give up crunching for FAD or perhaps another usefull project :kiss:

[rsbriggs]

Not to worry. We won't give up crunching FaD even if all of you get disappointed and go off and look for some other challenge - maybe one that you can accomplish.

Like, maybe, trying to catch up to team Anandtech or Prime Rib in Seventeen or Bust.

But thank you for being concerned. We won't be disappointed when you give up, especially after having such a nice barbeque (at least until all the food runs out).

[MAB]

As long as you're able to give us some kind of challenge and make sure you're not roadkilled too quick by us we'll be not too disappointed and keep one crunching as long as there's a team on nr. 1 and we're not that team :cheers:
As long as there's grass we'll be crunching and crunching and ...................
:cow: :cow: :cow:

BTW : Any suggestions what sauce goes best with a BEAR steak :dunno: :lmao:

[rsbriggs]

Ahh, but in that search for # 1, Free-DC is the least of your problems.

You are going to have to crunch your way through "XPC".

Then after that bit of challenge, face "TSC!Russia".

And finally, face the most powerfull and dreaded " ".

But you have to get through Free-DC, first, so let the barbeque begin whenever you are ready. Personally as a current member of TKWSN, I taunt you by saying Ni! to all of you silly moo-moos....

:nicow:

:nicow:

[rshepard]

BTW : Any suggestions what sauce goes best with a BEAR steak


bernaise, obviously

:bang:

[rsbriggs]

Heh. Bear-naisse sauce? How about a little Holland-aisse sauce with our barbeque?? :D

[MAB]

Originally posted by rshepard
bernaise, obviously

:bang:
Thanks for the info :kiss: We'll try that in a few weeks :p

@rsbriggs : I don't think this moment there is or will be a problem whatsoever or it must be perhaps FAD will be stopped before we reach our goal :rolleyes:
In that case we'll find us another goal to go for :thumbs:

Anyway : Due to the lack of (expected ?) meat during our Stampede we request you not to eat our grass but take a sandwich for that short period instead :weggy:

[LAURENU2]

Originally posted by MAB
Yes, you're wright :D
Not more than a little and then we have to look for another REAL challenge :smoking:
We hope you'll not be too disappointed and won't give up crunching for FAD or perhaps another usefull project :kiss:
Well from some ONE that has allmost 2/3 the points of your whole team
I Don't Think So :jester: :rotfl: :jester:
We will not quit
And The best you will do is get closer to our :moon: :jester: :moon:

[MAB]

Originally posted by LAURENU2
Well from some ONE that has allmost 2/3 the points of your whole team
I Don't Think So :jester: :rotfl: :jester:
We will not quit
And The best you will do is get closer to our :moon: :jester: :moon:

No need to get upset :(
There will be some time for that in a few weeks ;)
For now : Put your feet back on the ground and get your head out of the clouds :p


I'm starting to like this taunting. When looking at the reactions I'm getting better and better. Furthermore I'm having the chance to use my rusty English a bit

[thekip]

I'm glad to see you already fired up your bbq, although I don't know what Bear tastes like on a bbq I'm sure we're going to find out.

@Fozzie:
http://img257.echo.cx/img257/4392/bearhunterscopy8tc.jpg

[Bok]

:lmao: :whip: @thekip

Bok :jester:

[thekip]

Look at him go, Fozzie is running for his life :Pokes:

[MAB]

rsbriggs is back in his basket I see ;)
Happy crunching :cheers:

[rsbriggs]

Yes, I heard there was a barbequeue going on. Just thought I'd bring the hamburger buns and a little Hollandaisse sauce....

[Mustard]

Who's bringing the beer and watermellon? :|party|:

[rsbriggs]

In Utah, that translates to pink punch and green jello....


Originally posted by MAB

I'm starting to like this taunting. When looking at the reactions I'm getting better and better. Furthermore I'm having the chance to use my rusty English a bit

Yes, rusty English good have circumstances on Tuesdays. Nevertheless, do those phonebook plumbers always remember jumping? Not like a similar happenstance, I'll wager. Oh yes, Tuesday, this much be Belgium. Much pulling of legs....

[MAB]

Originally posted by rsbriggs
In Utah, that translates to pink punch and green jello....



Yes, rusty English good have circumstances on Tuesdays. Nevertheless, do those phonebook plumbers always remember jumping? Not like a similar happenstance, I'll wager. Oh yes, Tuesday, this much be Belgium. Much pulling of legs....

Why jump :|punch|: only on Tuesday :confused: when it was accidental :cool: not in belgium ;) and without legpulling :D

I THINK :dunno:

[meep]

thekip, that logo is awesome!! :D

Top stuff...

[thekip]

I haven't made it but I just wanted to show you what we're up to :P

[MAB]

http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/54510

Seems like another group of several hundred cpu's will join DPC during the Stampede :rolleyes:

For the moment it will be temporary but some already are talking about staying afterwards :smoking:

Should be interesting to see how much points they can produce during this 4th Stampede :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

[Bok]

And you didn't even mention Free-DC in the front page pimpage...

:swear: :spank: :moon: ;)

Seriously though, we look forward to watching :corn:

We can always point to the member/point ratio anyway :)

[Mustard]

Where's the beef???????

[thekip]

Originally posted by Bok
And you didn't even mention Free-DC in the front page pimpage...

:swear: :spank: :moon: ;)

Seriously though, we look forward to watching :corn:

We can always point to the member/point ratio anyway :)
Fok isn't our frontpage the dutch power cows is the DC-team of Tweakers.net:
http://www.tweakers.net/nieuws/37490

And you also aren't mentioned over there :Pokes:

Many people at Fok are related to tweakers.net though therefor a post at their frontpage was logical. Anyway hopefully the people at Fok can supply us with some extra arms for the :machgun: hunt :sniper: on Little Fozzie

[MAB]

Originally posted by Bok
And you didn't even mention Free-DC in the front page pimpage...

:swear: :spank: :moon: ;)

Seriously though, we look forward to watching :corn:

We can always point to the member/point ratio anyway :)

Yes, you can point to member/point ratio :umm:
But is that better (or more "honorable") than others like most of the DPCers running less than 5 cpu's (some just 1 (me 1¼)) at home, not running a big hurd at the office and having to pay for extra electricity-costs themselves :confused:

I expect most of you run a hurd at the office (think I read somewhere rsbriggs is one of the big private farmers :rolleyes: )

[rsbriggs]

I believe that the majority of Free-DCers are "private farmers" - Lauren, Bok, IronBits, PCZ. I used to run a couple computers at the office in addition to my private farm, but I can't do that anymore, so I just have to build more computers.

I would guess that anyone will run work computers if they have the opportunity. Some companies are very strict about security these days and don't allow it.

A few of the big guns are "industrial farmers". Beth133, Fozzie and Meep come to mind :) Dunno about Maefly, or Ronbo.

Heck, if you've got access to them, run them....

I think that the large majority of Free-DC members run just a few computers on various projects - everyone kind of has their own favorite project....

[Mustard]

Originally posted by MAB


I expect most of you run a hurd at the office (think I read somewhere rsbriggs is one of the big private farmers :rolleyes: )


Actually, we have several good sized home farmers, and yes we have some big office farmers too. But you would probably be quite surprised at the number of home farmers we have as we have good representation on multiple projects besides just FAD. :)

The number of members that you have (DPC) though is truly amazing and really demonstrates what can be accomplished by many individuals just running a couple of systems or so each! :)

[Theadalus]

Originally posted by rsbriggs
I believe that the majority of Free-DCers are "private farmers" - Lauren, Bok, IronBits, PCZ. I used to run a couple computers at the office in addition to my private farm, but I can't do that anymore, so I just have to build more computers.

Just curious to know:

Don't you guys (and girls ;)) have big/enormous electricity-bills, or is electricity that much cheaper in America (or...)?

I mean: in Holland (the Netherlands if you will :p) a lot of people are :scared: to run their PC 24/7 because of the electricity-bills they will get afterwards. Running 1 PC 24/7 for a whole year will cost about 100 euro's extra (compared to normal use, let's say 8/7), so imagine the costs of a complete farm! :cry:

[Bok]

Mine is around $350 per month I'd estimate for electricity alone... about 30 machines running right now, plus aircon :)

Bok

[Mustard]

Mine "averages" about $325 a month for the electricity portion, to include A/C and 20 computers.

[rsbriggs]

No, power isn't much cheaper here.

I probably pay the equivalent of around 150 to 175 Euros per month for the electricity to run them. It probably amounts to about 2500 to 3000 Euros per year when the air conditioning to keep them cool is figured in.

It's my way of donating to scientific causes, I guess.

[LAURENU2]

I believe it costs about 10 to 11 dollars per computer per month to run 24/7
My home bill with No AC on runs 650.00 + a month With AC it tops 800.00:cry:

[MAB]

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy to the Home Farmers :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

Wish I had a farm like yours, but you can't have it all, so I will stick to my "very little hurd" :cry:

Perhaps I can add one, but more is out off the question :(

I can live with it :rolleyes:

But it won't help you during our Stampede :jester:

[LAURENU2]

But it won't help you during our Stampede

Ni Ni = Ni Ni = daNI Ni catch me if you can :moon: :looney: :moon: :jester:

[em99010pepe]

In Portugal electricity is cheap but we earn 1/3 or 1/4 of you Dutch people. The good news is that I can put alot of computers running from university without costing me nothing :D and the bad news is that I can't afford to buy more machines :( .

Carlos

[GP500]

Originally posted by em99010pepe
In Portugal electricity is cheap but we earn 1/3 or 1/4 of you Dutch people. The good news is that I can put alot of computers running from university without costing me nothing :D and the bad news is that I can't afford to buy more machines :( .

Carlos
The ceapest way is this, cpu-onboard (duron).
http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Redirect.aspx?MenuID=25

1 powersupply for 2-3 boards and boot with the network.
(some need extra memmory).
Make a mem drive.
Foila.

€90,- a board.

[iffy]

Waiting for someone to do a graph plotting CPU rating (or points) against Watts consumed... LOL :) :) :)

[Mustard]

Originally posted by iffy
Waiting for someone to do a graph plotting CPU rating (or points) against Watts consumed... LOL :) :) :)


Actually I'm surprised that someone hasn't done that yet as it would really be nice to know what the "best bang for the buck" (and other currencies also) is. Raw power is nice, however the most economical way to realice performance efficiency is nice too. :)

[Paratima]

I think someone actually did that, back during Distributed Folding. Can't find the thread, however.

It's no laughing matter, when you factor in air conditioning costs. Obviously, the colder-climate crunchers have an advantage.

As I recall, the best tactic amounts to finding the current "sweet spot" CPU/motherboard combo. That is, the best compromise between cost & performance. At the time, I seem to remember figuring that anything below about 400 MHz was more space heater than efficient bit-banger, UNLESS you drove two MB's off a single power supply. I imagine that figure has escalated up a bit since then.

There are LOTS of variables to consider, though. If you decide to attempt the computation, good luck! :p

[Theadalus]

Originally posted by GP500
The ceapest way is this, cpu-onboard (duron).
http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Redirect.aspx?MenuID=25

1 powersupply for 2-3 boards and boot with the network.
(some need extra memmory).
Make a mem drive.
Foila.

€90,- a board.
I'm expecting to see a higher crunch-rate at your account within the near future :D

[tpdooley]

DPC Beef - it's what's for dinner? (http://www.gammabot.com/beef/rib_smoking.html)


Wine Marinated Beef Kebabs
*Recipe: courtesy Emeril Lagasse, 2003
1 1/2 pounds beef sirloin, fat trimmed and cubed
MARINADE:
4 teaspoons Essence
1/2 cup dry red wine
2 tablespoons red wine vinegar
2 tablespoons soy sauce
2 tablespoons minced garlic
1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce
1 tablespoon roughly chopped fresh rosemary leaves
1 tablespoon fresh thyme leaves
Other ingredients:
8 ounces button mushrooms, wiped clean, stems trimmed
1 medium yellow onion, peeled, cut in half then into quarters
1 large green or red bell pepper, cut into 1-inch pieces
12 to 18 cherry tomatoes, rinsed and drained
Kosher salt
Olive oil

Place the meat in a large ziplock bag. Toss with Essence. Add marinade and toss to coat. Marinate in the refrigerator at least 6 and up to 24 hours.
Thread 1 meat cube onto a skewer, followed by remaining ingredients until skewer is full. Sprinkle lightly with kosher salt, drizzle on some oil and grill (or broil) until cooked medium-rare, about 6 minutes, turning once. Yield: 4 to 6 servings
From Decatur limited (http://www.decaturlimited.com/may-june/feature3.php)

[LAURENU2]

I will tell you them Cows are Fast
http://www.laurensnet.com/image/cowroper.gif

But I got me one

http://www.clipartheaven.com/clipart/agriculture/milking_cow_6.gif

I Got Milk

[MAB]

Originally posted by LAURENU2
I will tell you them Cows are Fast

But I got me one

I Got Milk

NEVER with cold hands :swear:

http://members.lycos.nl/animatiesvanwen/koe01.gif

[MAB]

Originally posted by Paratima
I think someone actually did that, back during Distributed Folding. Can't find the thread, however.

It's no laughing matter, when you factor in air conditioning costs. Obviously, the colder-climate crunchers have an advantage.

As I recall, the best tactic amounts to finding the current "sweet spot" CPU/motherboard combo. That is, the best compromise between cost & performance. At the time, I seem to remember figuring that anything below about 400 MHz was more space heater than efficient bit-banger, UNLESS you drove two MB's off a single power supply. I imagine that figure has escalated up a bit since then.

There are LOTS of variables to consider, though. If you decide to attempt the computation, good luck! :p

Found some info about CPU power consumption here http://www.goodwin.ee/sulo/Power2.htm and here http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2275&p=13

If anybody else found a link anywhere please reply.
Just curious to know which CPU to buy next (if possible) :cool:

[thekip]

I'm busy building a website where you can submit scores for comparison on different projects. So you can see what configuration works best on what project.