I am finding that this new Protein just dies for no reason and with no error message..it quits before it can write to the log. Very rare on the last couple of Proteins, but this one I am having several deaths a day on various PCs..some 45 KM apart :bs: Reinstall makes no difference. I run all PCs with the window visible now ( still quieyt mode) so I can monitor them :( And yes, DFGUI has no clue as to their demise either :stretcher