Well Iron bits directed me here. Cheers! If you had the choice, what procs are the best for SOB? For single core would you go Northwood Prescott, or Gallatin?
riptide
Well Iron bits directed me here. Cheers! If you had the choice, what procs are the best for SOB? For single core would you go Northwood Prescott, or Gallatin?
riptide
Get a Core 2 Duo. If you have to wait a few weeks it will be worth it.
This is very true however the 939-pin x2 have been seriously cut in price almost half.
Very true but he did ask for a suggestion. Alot of people think single core for several reasons, least of which is price and performance per core. There was quite a premium for a dual core which wasn't as fast on most apps as the best single core CPU.Originally Posted by IronBits
He said single core, and I think Prescott. Not taking into consideration electrical consumption and heat.
If one is thinking about heat and electrical eff% there are other places to cut back and consider. A nice video card is a hugh thermal heater and power hungry. I don't think ddr2 consumes that much less than ddr when considering the computers as a whole.
Anyways the new intels look great and personally I wouldn't buy another high-end chip that was single core. To counter this AMD cut pricing pretty serious.
Certinly! Sometimes its always good to watch those garden lights left on or hall lights left on too. Can always make the saving somewhere.
Core 2 DUo!!!!!!Hey, Bok and others have said a Conroe do on SOB same as what a netburts does........ AT THE SAME SPEED IN GHZ!
I'd love too see a prescott & northwood match on this. My 3.4 Northwood @ 3.5 will get 43xxxxxxx after 24 hours rate catching! Wanna see what cache and memoery timings have in store for this.
I don't think that Conroe is the same as Core 2 Duo.
Besides, Prime95 is George Woltman, the author of Prime95 and the underlying software that drives the SB client. His opinion should not be taken lightly.
Joe O
Joe, take a look at these threads here and tell me what'cha think. You agree or disagree? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=104625 and this one http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=106879 and this one http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=107098
I'm just trying to get a few things together in my head to help me on buying decisions in the future
EDIT: Joe, Conroe is Core 2 Duo. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2795Theres also Kentfield (4 core). And Woodcrest. Not out yet officially!
I'm sorry, I didn't read the original post carefully.
For single core, get an AMD chip if you are sieving. Get a Pentium 4 based chip if you are running the SoB client (Northwood vs. Prescott doesn't matter much). The faster the chip, the better (L2 cache size is not critical as long as its at least 512KB). Avoid Pentium M and Core (as opposed to Core 2) chips. If you do both SoB and gaming or other CPU bound task you have a dilemma, AMD chips are generally faster at most other tasks whereas SoB prefers the Pentium 4 Netburst architecture.
On the digression I started, Core 2 has two FPUs! A 2.4 GHz Core 2 outperforms a 3.8 GHz P4. See http://mersenne.org/bench.htm
Oh, and no matter what you decide make sure last week's steep price cuts are reflected in the chip or system you purchase!!!
In my experience the Northwood core, clock for clock, gives the best performance on SB PRP and GIMPS Prime95. This is closely followed by the Prescott. I don't know about the Core 2, but the Core does not compete. I also have reservations about the current Core 2 offerings. I had higher expectations. Maybe the next stepping, or a BIOS revision?Joe, take a look at these threads here and tell me what'cha think. You agree or disagree? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=104625 and this one http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=106879 and this one http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=107098
I'm just trying to get a few things together in my head to help me on buying decisions in the future
EDIT: Joe, Conroe is Core 2 Duo. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2795Theres also Kentfield (4 core). And Woodcrest. Not out yet officially!
Also, in my experience, the software can be tuned for a specific processor. I took GW's post to mean that he was/is planning to tune his code to Core 2.
If you are planning to only run SB PRP then this is the end of my post.
If you want to run other software as well, then I would take a look at the Opteron 252 (?) or the Socket 939 Athlon's, or even the AM2 Athlon's. These provide very good performance on a range of software. Beware of the 256K cache on some Athlon's. 512K is really needed. For untuned software, these perform better. Again, from my experience, it is possible to tune software for these processors that will really fly. The free or low cost compilers do not really do AMDs justice. You have to get one of the high price optimizing compilers, or hand tune assembler which is tedious. If I could give AMD any advice, it would be to provide a free compiler that would make their processors shine.
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