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    be careful for what you wish for

    I'm not sure if the rest of us can sieve that fast

    but I'd sure like to find out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Dettweiler View Post
    Well, you guys are definitely beating everyone else quite easily for this rally; a swamping victory seems almost assured. However, another target (and quite a stretch at that) would be to try to take back the lead in the all-time stats from Raiders of the Lost Primes. They just crossed the 5-million mark in # of points and Free-DC is only at 2.77 million. (To put this in perspective, Free-DC's cranked out 27799 points in the slightly <24hrs so far on this rally.) Granted, it's a huge undertaking, but if you're looking for a place to bring out the big guns, you've found it.

    C'mon guys--you're being showed up by a little upstart team that nobody's even heard of outside of NPLB! You can do better than that!
    It would take us about 2 months or less to do this It is hard to fit that into 2 days

    But when Free-DC come together in a focus there in not much we Can Not accomplish

    We Are Free-DC and we stand with the Best

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDave View Post
    be careful for what you wish for

    I'm not sure if the rest of us can sieve that fast

    but I'd sure like to find out
    I will sell you some of my special blend Rocket Fuel

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAURENU2 View Post
    I will sell you some of my special blend Rocket Fuel
    BURP! Scuse me
    That stuff was for DC-ing???

    Darnit
    I'd better lay off those canisters right away then
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDave View Post
    BURP! Scuse me
    That stuff was for DC-ing???

    Darnit
    I'd better lay off those canisters right away then
    If your head itches or your hair starts to fall out seek medical attention immediately
    And read the warning label next time
    One other side-effect might be

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDave View Post
    be careful for what you wish for

    I'm not sure if the rest of us can sieve that fast

    but I'd sure like to find out
    Ah, no need to worry--sieving is, for the most part, the least of our worries right now. Even though the k=1003-2000 sieving is still somewhat up in the air until June (at which point everything up to n=1M will be all set and we can open the floodgates as necessary), we've got truckloads of k=400-1001 work (Drives 5, 6, and 7) that could keep all of Free-DC busy for months on end.

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    Seeing that Teams didn't start until mid October last year, let's see what the totals are when AMDave starts Team Stats Totals from that point.

    22 Oct 08 was the first post in the NPLB Forum asking to form teams.
    http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=10826

    28 Oct 08 is the first post by gd_barnes announcing 'Raiders of the Lost Primes' team thread
    http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=10867

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Dettweiler View Post
    C'mon guys--you're being showed up by a little upstart team that nobody's even heard of outside of NPLB! You can do better than that!

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    Woo!

    GREAT NEWS. You have found a Prime! on the NPLB Project.
    Just the one though?

    Links in the email seem to point to the previous drive...

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    Schweet!

    I've been asked to find out what Free-DC would prefer in order to increase the participation level and interest.
    The client is absolutely easy to run, as some of you have found out this time around.

    What is easier for you, my fellow teammates?

    More frequent rallies with short durations or less frequent rallies with a longer duration?

    2 day rally
    4 day rally
    7 day rally
    or longer perhaps?

    ROLP ROLP
    (Raiders of the Lost Primes - #1 at the moment, with Free-DC in the #2 spot)
    http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=proj&proj=nplb

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    4 day (long weekend) rally every month would be good for me; wouldn't take too much away from the main projects I want to run but would still give a regular boost...

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    Getting it BOINC'd would help...

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    Another resounding

    Congrats!

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    Back onto my normal BOINC projects - be happy to help the next run though

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    Great to hear pfb!

    Boinc is not going to happen for NPLB as the admins prefer it the way it is, as do most of the participants.

    It would be great if we could keep some pressure up so ROLP doesn't get too far ahead, or,
    we could slowly chew through to their lead and sneak into #1.

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    Are We There Yet

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    Those of us that will continue on, you can find your progress here: http://stats.ironbits.net/statsnew/n...ntent=progress
    Scroll down to port 8000...

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    With the rally, you found a prime that is in the top-5000 largest primes of all time. Congrats!
    More emails like this next rally as well please

    Not usually that interested in maths projects but given it's easy to run this, definitely happy to take part in more rallies in the future

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    Good to know, and yes, it really is an easy client to run, as you eluded to.

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    Thanks to all the rally participants

    Also
    We have been challenged with a longer term goal of taking No1 away from ROLP.
    Some of you may wish to rise to this challenge

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    I'm all over that! ROLP
    /me likes Free-DC in #1 spot


    I'm thinking this one would make a nice candidate for Project of the Month!
    Like OGR, the work units will take longer to complete as the days go by...
    The longer we wait to make our move, the longer it will take for us to get there.
    In 30 days, we would be really close, and perhaps take #1 IF we all pushed hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronBits View Post
    Like OGR, the work units will take longer to complete as the days go by...
    The longer we wait to make our move, the longer it will take for us to get there.
    Really? I thought the scores were weighted on this project now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronBits View Post
    More frequent rallies with short durations or less frequent rallies with a longer duration?

    2 day rally
    4 day rally
    7 day rally
    or longer perhaps?
    Is it over already?

    I think 4 day minimum since switching projects on machines takes a little time so once we have things up and running let it go for 4 or 7 days, then we can switch back to something else.

    As for frequency, I think once a month is ok or at least every 2 months. I found one new top 5000 prime so I'm very happy. It was in the top 2000 when I submitted it, now it is 2007.

    Jeff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha View Post
    Really? I thought the scores were weighted on this project now?
    Yes, they are weighted. I think what IB meant was that the longer you guys wait, the longer ROLP will have to cement their lead even further. :smile:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Dettweiler View Post
    Yes, they are weighted. I think what IB meant was that the longer you guys wait, the longer ROLP will have to cement their lead even further. :smile:
    Man OH man only a fool would poke a sleeping lion
    Do you Really want to lose 1st place
    Your Team mates will nickname you Big Mouth when we them

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronBits View Post
    I'm thinking this one would make a nice candidate for Project of the Month!
    Like OGR, the work units will take longer to complete as the days go by...
    The longer we wait to make our move, the longer it will take for us to get there.
    In 30 days, we would be really close, and perhaps take #1 IF we all pushed hard.
    I'd be along for that - esp if it's the next PotM

    Oh, and my prime is currently sitting Rank 1,979

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Dettweiler View Post

    C'mon guys--you're being showed up by a little upstart team that nobody's even heard of outside of NPLB! You can do better than that!
    Was any Free-DC member using 100% of there Resources to push this Rally?
    I was only at about 55 - 60% pointed here
    If this was the common case among us all
    I would say let the Dogs of war out and go to FULL Burn to Take First Place
    Projection's say about a 50 day run to take 1st If we can maintain a 50K a day

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    pfb, come on back

    Team Free-DC


    Let's be merciful to ROLP and do this quickly.

    It could take less than 30 days, one PotM push

    Team Free-DC

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronBits View Post
    Let's be merciful to ROLP and do this quickly.

    It could take less than 30 days, one PotM push

    Team Free-DC
    To do it in 30 days would take a sustained output of 92.5K per day

    I Might be able to Crunch about 40K myself But not sure what the other
    members can put on the Table

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    PCZ and myself can put up ~16K per day, but not for a couple weeks until we finish the sieve jobs we are doing so we can load up more work onto the NPLB llrnet servers.
    32K per day + PCZ/IB
    40K per day + Lauren
    20K per day (Team Free-DC) of course, more the merrier

    We also do not have a full weeks run into the stats system, so the time to overtake will take a big drop right?
    It shows we are gaining at 16,619, when in fact, we are gaining faster than that right (50,000)? Now it says 126 days
    PHP Code:
    Rank   Team Score     Average Daily Gain Days to Overtake 
    1      ROLP 5
    ,104,598  25,775  16,619     126.56 

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    I did it by the math
    If the ROLP team stays at there output now 25K X 30 = 750 K + 2 Mil =
    2,750,000 / 30 = 91666.666666666666666666666666667 points per day

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    I'll put at least a core or three on it when the current PotM is over, if we decide to push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronBits View Post
    pfb, come on back

    Team Free-DC


    Let's be merciful to ROLP and do this quickly.

    It could take less than 30 days, one PotM push

    Team Free-DC
    I'll need to drain my BOINC reserves again first but I'll come back for a month or so

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    I can add another 230 per hour once I finish my sieve work by May 2nd.
    PCZ will bring a tad more than that in a couple weeks, around May 10th.
    That's an additional 12K per day.

    It should be really close!!!

    So, if we offically start the PotM on May 1st, I won't be too late the the

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    Anyway of having it run unobtrusively? For the rally weekend I could put up with 4 or 8 command windows but if I'm going to run it for longer would really want a better way (i.e. less command windows )?

    I can see if I was on XP I could install as a service via the system tray icon but under Vista, the system tray icon's menu doesn't show properly Anyway to get it as a service via command line?

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    I use grouping
    In Vista, probably not.
    See this thread http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18574

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    Got 1 installed as service (3rd menu option - bit of trial and error when each entry is blank ) but when I go to do the 2nd service it fails...I'll try and fiddle a bit more

    /edit - decided to just run LLRNET from the startup folder; can't seem to install more than 1 service as the service name is hardcoded by the looks of it...oh well, no command windows - just dodgy tray icons instead

    Anyone know of any plans of a new client that plays better with Vista in terms of the tray icons/menu?
    Last edited by pfb; 04-22-2009 at 04:50 AM.

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    The native service installer only really works for one client.

    I run all my clients as services using srvany and instsrv.
    Do you need some instructions ?

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    I'll stick with the system tray icons for now - was using IB's script that set the affinitys which is why I had the command windows ;p

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAURENU2 View Post
    Man OH man only a fool would poke a sleeping lion
    Do you Really want to lose 1st place
    Your Team mates will nickname you Big Mouth when we them
    Well Max Dettweiler I think you poked the Lion too hard We are up and Hungry

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronBits View Post
    I use grouping
    In Vista, probably not.
    See this thread http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18574
    Speaking of which can you answer my question in that thread when you get a chance please IronBits?

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