Reply With Quoteif we have a the 910 error, do we get points??
straight question
'cos if not Grumpy and me are off to the pub.
We have noticed an increased appearance of 910 errors on the server. Despite that, most data is still coming through fine. We are looking into this matter to ensure it is not a bug, but it may be a temporary result of tweaking we did to the server to improve upload performance.
Elena Garderman
if we have a the 910 error, do we get points??
straight question
'cos if not Grumpy and me are off to the pub.
Are You a dreamer?
mind answering a few questions ... increase in 910 errors to what percentage ?
if its a bug you created which looks highly probable what about the work we have done over last few days? do we just sit back and say oh well they might get it right next time lets fold for a few more days to get all work trashed again
simple question, would like an answer.
So please have a look under "bug tracking" and read the reply I got to my post two hours ago. Both admins were in the forum meanwhile.....Originally posted by Helix_Von_Smelix
simple question, would like an answer.
can't see that you did get a reply.
That's what i meant. Sorry.... just kidding....Originally posted by Helix_Von_Smelix
can't see that you did get a reply.
We're the stupid crunchers and got fed with answers like "possible 910 errors".
And I can't beleive that most results got it to the database. If I got this error almost at the same time on six highspeed boxen....
well stardragon is in the forum, so why is she not answering?
2 hours till the pub opens, getting impatient
I am not a Stats Ho, it is just more satisfying to see that my numbers are better than yours.
it's all right for you, ours have just closed
I'm drinking my beer at home waiting for an answer to my questions.....
maybe the errors are due to people deleting the receipt.txt file or otherwise hacking the system up
Use the right tool for the right job!
all mine are clean installs, that have run offline all the time until one hour ago. and i still am getting the 910 error on 98% of my uploads
dream on..... Not this much at the same time.....Originally posted by FoBoT
maybe the errors are due to people deleting the receipt.txt file or otherwise hacking the system up
Once you receive a 910 error, you will not be credited points for those particular results (this was implemented as an anti-cheating measure). Also keep in mind that once one generation is out of whack, it will almost always affect all the generations that follow, until generation 250. It is also possible to get a 910 error when you send duplicate data, in which case the error will disappear once you reach results that you have not uploaded before.
Elena Garderman
none of that applys to me. so
Oke, just started afresh with the new client. All my buffered gens of the last couple of days have been succesfully marked as "910 bad or missing . . ."(you know the one).
Funny actually, tickets were supposed to end the 910 problem wasn't it ?
DPC: We're going for the #1 again
But how did so many clients get 'one generation is out of whack' at roughly the same time? Is this because something was reset your end which means a lot of work is wasted? Is the only answer to leave things as they are and let a lot of data not get processed?
Well, I am glad I did not touch my receipt.txt files...not
I am not a Stats Ho, it is just more satisfying to see that my numbers are better than yours.
I had status 908 between the 910ers. So they must have done something at the serverside.Originally posted by pfb
But how did so many clients get 'one generation is out of whack' at roughly the same time? Is this because something was reset your end which means a lot of work is wasted? Is the only answer to leave things as they are and let a lot of data not get processed?
But nobody gave an answer.....
I doubt it, only the first file in the filelist would have been in progress when the receipt.txt was issued, the others should not have been previously presented to the server. Also I tested the client online and it still 910 gave errors.Originally posted by FoBoT
maybe the errors are due to people deleting the receipt.txt file or otherwise hacking the system up
OCAU
excuses excuses excuses ..... so for the last few days many people have duplicated 1000s of gens to cheat on the scores ........ i beleive ya ...
*****edit*****
why not just admit you messed up big time at your side and roll back with a new protein
Well, none of my receipts were altered, and none of my Directories were getting 910s until today..they may have been only upload ing 2 gens a day, but they were going thru fine..now all I get is 910's . 3000 Gens for naught will not go down well
I am not a Stats Ho, it is just more satisfying to see that my numbers are better than yours.
Believe me Grumpy and take another beer....
It's not their fault.....
We are guilty......
An install from the 25th is uploading without errors. It has been uploading previously and is now still working correctly. This problem is not affecting every client! However four other clients are getting errors.
wonder how many people will be left after this is sorted?
My 25+ systems are all in the same status. They autoupdated, and have been uploading ***very slowly*** but without error, until a few hours ago. None of the filelist.txt or receipt.txt files have been tampered with or deleted.Originally posted by Grumpy
Well, none of my receipts were altered, and none of my Directories were getting 910s until today..they may have been only upload ing 2 gens a day, but they were going thru fine..now all I get is 910's . 3000 Gens for naught will not go down well
There needs to be an explanation from Elena or Brian - soon!
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FoBot - didn't delete the receipt.txt or do anything but start fresh the other day. I'm getting the 910's too.Originally posted by FoBoT
maybe the errors are due to people deleting the receipt.txt file or otherwise hacking the system up
Does anyone know? Are we supposed to just keep crunching on the same client? Get the new one? (though I did read that the new one has the same probs). Does this mean all my work is lost?
TIA.
looks like purging through to a new gen doesn't work as the new ticket system implies that if the previous upload was gen 200 of set 1 and you purge to gen 1 of set 2, it will return a mismatch...
so, either wipe out all buffered gens or wait for some response from the team...
Over 2500 gens uploaded and 110,000 points to show for it? I am instructing my entire team to shut down until someone gets this right. There are alot of other projects out there looking for a few hundred folding rigs and we just may go help them.
Earlier today, I had empty filelist.txt - lost 600 generations.
Now, I had to delete another 700 generations due to error 910, even purging to the next complete fileset didn't help - error continued. Another client was more successful, and doesn't have errors after purging 120 generations.
Down to two folding systems - on next error, I'll be shutting them down.
As this was happening repeatedly since the changeover started, I'd like to have one question answered:
what is the point in wasting good work that could have been breakthrough in RMSD?
EDIT: One client that was folding online is full of 910 errors - deleted all and shut down. Another started OK after purge, and after generation 20 started showing error 910 - deleted all and shut down.
All those errors must have come due to cheating...
Wish you all the best - no more folding for me.
Last edited by iggy; 04-28-2004 at 06:45 PM.
That's about where I'm at pfb...Originally posted by pfb
looks like purging through to a new gen doesn't work as the new ticket system implies that if the previous upload was gen 200 of set 1 and you purge to gen 1 of set 2, it will return a mismatch...
so, either wipe out all buffered gens or wait for some response from the team...
im with you 2fast4u ... im gonna let the rest of these buffereds upload then call it a draw for now , i should just delete em all but feel morally bound just to send em anyway
MY TEAM IS SHUTTING DOWN UNTIL WE GET AN ANSWER AND A REAL FIX. JUST GO BACK TO THE OLD BACKEND AND PUT UP A LARGE ENOUGH PROTIEN THAT THE SERVER CAN HANDLE THE UPLOAD. PRETTY SIMPLE FIX IF YOU ASK ME.
I had some 350 gen. buffered on one client and also getting 910's in the log while uploading, but as soon as it started uploading a new gen 0, the error disappeared and I got credited. This means that you can risk losing (ie=no points credited) up to 250 gens pr. client - no more.
This means that there is no need to start deleting 1000's of buffered generations - as soon as the client gets to the first buffered gen. 0, things will be fine.
Whether the generations with 910's have any scientific value I don't know.
As it has been said numerous times - leave the client alone
/Mighty
I HAVE LEFT IT ALONE the last few days and what for for someone to mess up the entire project and WONT admit to it ... all was ok buffering and sending in the odd few gens until today ... someone has messed up 1000s of computers hard work who were trying to help
I did leave the client alone AND i crossed the gen 0 - border, and STILL got credited a 910. So . . .Originally posted by mighty
I had some 350 gen. buffered on one client and also getting 910's in the log while uploading, but as soon as it started uploading a new gen 0, the error disappeared and I got credited. This means that you can risk losing (ie=no points credited) up to 250 gens pr. client - no more.
This means that there is no need to start deleting 1000's of buffered generations - as soon as the client gets to the first buffered gen. 0, things will be fine.
Whether the generations with 910's have any scientific value I don't know.
As it has been said numerous times - leave the client alone
/Mighty
UPDATE:
As mentioned 1 hour ago, i started a fresh install of my client, and watch this (error.log):
In fact, only gen 1 uploaded, i got 100 points. Gen 2 gave a 908 error . . . so gen 3 and further will no doubt be rewarded (again) with a 910. Even a fresh install with the client released today won't help.Code:========================[ Apr 28, 2004 11:31 PM ]======================== Starting foldtrajlite built Apr 28 2004 ========================[ Apr 28, 2004 11:32 PM ]======================== Starting foldtrajlite built Apr 28 2004 ========================[ Apr 28, 2004 11:58 PM ]======================== Starting foldtrajlite built Apr 28 2004 Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_socket.c, line 1173} [SOCK::s_Connect] Failed SOCK_gethostbyname(www.distributedfolding.org) Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_connutil.c, line 801} [URL_Connect] Socket connect to www.distributedfolding.org:80 failed: Unknown Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_socket.c, line 1173} [SOCK::s_Connect] Failed SOCK_gethostbyname(www.distributedfolding.org) Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_connutil.c, line 801} [URL_Connect] Socket connect to www.distributedfolding.org:80 failed: Unknown Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_socket.c, line 1173} [SOCK::s_Connect] Failed SOCK_gethostbyname(www.distributedfolding.org) Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_connutil.c, line 801} [URL_Connect] Socket connect to www.distributedfolding.org:80 failed: Unknown Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_http_connector.c, line 101} [HTTP] Too many failed attempts, giving up Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_socket.c, line 1173} [SOCK::s_Connect] Failed SOCK_gethostbyname(ftp.mshri.on.ca) Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_connutil.c, line 801} [URL_Connect] Socket connect to ftp.mshri.on.ca:80 failed: Unknown Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_socket.c, line 1173} [SOCK::s_Connect] Failed SOCK_gethostbyname(ftp.mshri.on.ca) Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_connutil.c, line 801} [URL_Connect] Socket connect to ftp.mshri.on.ca:80 failed: Unknown Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_socket.c, line 1173} [SOCK::s_Connect] Failed SOCK_gethostbyname(ftp.mshri.on.ca) Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_connutil.c, line 801} [URL_Connect] Socket connect to ftp.mshri.on.ca:80 failed: Unknown Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_http_connector.c, line 101} [HTTP] Too many failed attempts, giving up Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {foldtrajlite2.c, line 2199} Unable to check server status Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_socket.c, line 1173} [SOCK::s_Connect] Failed SOCK_gethostbyname(anteater.blueprint.org) Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_connutil.c, line 801} [URL_Connect] Socket connect to anteater.blueprint.org:80 failed: Unknown Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_socket.c, line 1173} [SOCK::s_Connect] Failed SOCK_gethostbyname(anteater.blueprint.org) Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_connutil.c, line 801} [URL_Connect] Socket connect to anteater.blueprint.org:80 failed: Unknown Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_socket.c, line 1173} [SOCK::s_Connect] Failed SOCK_gethostbyname(anteater.blueprint.org) Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_connutil.c, line 801} [URL_Connect] Socket connect to anteater.blueprint.org:80 failed: Unknown Wed Apr 28 23:58:57 2004 ERROR: [000.000] {ncbi_http_connector.c, line 101} [HTTP] Too many failed attempts, giving up ========================[ Apr 29, 2004 12:08 AM ]======================== Starting foldtrajlite built Apr 28 2004 ========================[ Apr 29, 2004 12:08 AM ]======================== Starting foldtrajlite built Apr 28 2004 Thu Apr 29 00:52:16 2004 ERROR: [002.000] {foldtrajlite2.c, line 4881} Warning during upload: STATUS 908 INCORRECT PROTEIN
Conclusion: Kill client -> delete \\distribfold\*.* -> sign off.
GIVE US A NEW CLIENT PRONTO, THE DF PROJECT IS GOINT TO CRAP I A VERY SHORT TIME THIS WAY !
Last edited by G_M_C; 04-28-2004 at 07:16 PM.
I don't know what your running but 250 gens is a full days output on my FX-51 rig. I will not take a chance that it may or may not be a "good set of 250" and waste a hole day of folding. I have not "messed" with the client at all it is just crap by itself!Originally posted by mighty
I had some 350 gen. buffered on one client and also getting 910's in the log while uploading, but as soon as it started uploading a new gen 0, the error disappeared and I got credited. This means that you can risk losing (ie=no points credited) up to 250 gens pr. client - no more.
This means that there is no need to start deleting 1000's of buffered generations - as soon as the client gets to the first buffered gen. 0, things will be fine.
Whether the generations with 910's have any scientific value I don't know.
As it has been said numerous times - leave the client alone
/Mighty
mighty
It is not good to see the work you have done go to waste.
What is more annoying is the attitude of people such as yourself who try to make out it is the fault of the folders.
The backend is useless.
The errors we are seeing are 100 % the fault of the project team.
I checked my logs carefully and there is one entry which says wrong protein.
This is between 100's of 910 errors and I didn't spot it immediately.
Since I most certainly am not folding the wrong protein it must mean that somebody was messing with the servers earlier today.
Wonder who that could have been
Oh silly me it was obviously my fault
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