Who will be the first to score 100,000?

**Death** · 11-15-2004, 08:15 AM

Largest scores
p (T) k n Score Factor found Score changed Score was Score could be Reqd bias
563.834T 21181 7581644 94730.599 Wed 21-Jul-2004 Sat 13-Nov-2004 5.638 101280.964 14.10 vjs
557.208T 21181 7580348 94698.216 Sat 13-Nov-2004 100056.604 13.93 vjs
666.585T 21181 7567532 94378.276 Fri 26-Mar-2004 Sat 13-Nov-2004 6.666 119292.848 16.66 DeadJDona (death)

**vjs** · 11-15-2004, 08:53 AM

It's tight Death within 6K I was kind of thinking we would have had our first 100K score today.

**MikeH** · 11-15-2004, 09:45 AM

It's tight Death within 6K I was kind of thinking we would have had our first 100K score today.

I still think we are about a week away from 100k.

vjs, your current top place needs a 90% sieve point of ~560, which probably won't happen for another month, which probably means that PRP will have washed over and it will never make 100k. Sorry.

I agree with what someone else wrote, that the first 100k factor will be n~7.7M, and will be about a week from now. This one looks promising

Code:

  302.920P  28433   7712305     35.000  Mon 15-Nov-2004     56304931.022    7573.00  frodo42

I still might be in with a chance if my current factor range yields something....

fixed table formatting /ceselb

**MikeH** · 11-18-2004, 03:17 PM

and now there's three good looking candidates from dmbrubac

Code:

  858.158T  21181   7680500      8.582  Sat 13-Nov-2004      158196.214      21.45  dmbrubac
 2812.486T  55459   7685518     28.125  Wed 17-Nov-2004      519142.668      70.31  dmbrubac
10479.524T   4847   7685847     35.000  Wed 17-Nov-2004     1934528.067     261.99  dmbrubac

fixed table formatting /ceselb

**vjs** · 11-18-2004, 04:30 PM

Yup,

I think your right my 7.58's will increase up until the prp passes over them but I don't think they will reach 100K.

My best hope looks like

556.299T 55459 7757230 104609.638

Unless I have something else just stashed away

**royanee** · 11-18-2004, 04:50 PM

It will really depend on which goes faster, sieving or prp. As for factor bragging, check it out:

427.793T 67607 130571 0.426 Wed 17-Nov-2004

Yay for almost half a point!!!

Quick Glance (if prp edge is at the n, then they need the following bias):

dmbrubac:
7680500 - 13.56
7685518 - 13.54 (this one is so close to the next one that this one is unlikely to win)
7685847 - 13.54

vjs:
7586383 - 13.90 (current leader, but probably not the winner)
7757230 - 13.29 (this bias = the current 90% sieve bias... so not the winner...)

These are all the ones that I can see, so unless there's a hidden ace somewhere, dmbrubac will probably be the winner with n=7685847.

By the way, even after your factors have entered the active window, they can still gain points, so if everyone stopped sieving, vjs' 7581644 would be the winner.

**vjs** · 11-18-2004, 05:14 PM

stopped sieving,

You mean stop prp'ing right...

Yes the factors will continue to increase in score as long as the prp front I.E. the lower part of the window has not pasted it by.

So in other words that score will continue to grow until n=7586383+200k= n=7786383 as far as I understand. But before that score exits the window, my n=7757230 - 13.29 will have entered...

I'm not claiming victory or anything that's the last thing, my pairs just look very lucky.

But

858.158T 21181 7680500

Has me scared...

**MikeH** · 11-19-2004, 10:20 AM

Finally I have one that I can throw into the ring

Code:

  363.127P  33661   7702152     35.000  Fri 19-Nov-2004                                  67318271.485    9078.18  MikeH

Required bias to get that to 100k = 13.485 (90% = 539.4)
Still don't rate my chances 'cause there's other good stuff to the immediate left are right of me.

. Good luck everyone.

**vjs** · 11-19-2004, 04:25 PM

O.K. looks like it's about time to start seriously thinking about the 100k score it could be anyday now.

At time of posting n is at 7453004 if a factor were found for (7653004) the min 90% bias T would have to be 13.65 or 546.36T for the first 100k score, not going to happen...

So what does this mean!!!

Well it's a race between advancing prp and sieve T level, who is in the race, which factors are more likely, and who at current time will win if nothing changes....

It's a neck and neck, knock down, drag out, hair, pulling event

relatively speaking...

The contenders for top prize...

Basically what I have listed is as follows, the n of the factor and the bias required to reach 100K.

Of course the factor isn't worth 100K until it's entered the window.
Lost it's ability to increase in score once it exits the window.
And will continue to increase in score as 90% sieve advances.

Here we go...

VJS, dmbrubac, MikeH, Frodo

First lets look at my factors, They are all 100k scores if sieve were high enough.

My factors

n 100K Bias 100K T
7586383 13.90 556.00*
7581644 13.91 556.70 x-
7580348 13.92 556.89 x-

Once the higher n enters the window it will remain in 1st place advancing in score until it reaches 100K (at the 100K T level) (winning) or another higher n enter.

*- In the lead
x- Lower n's will never win with increasing bias

However my lead candidate will be knocked out by Duramac's within the day...

Duramac
7680500 13.56 542.46
7685518 13.54 541.75
7685847 13.54 541.70*

So duramac will stay in the lead with his factors until another n beats him or we wins when sieve 541.70T is reached.

So my current scored factors are out of the race.

However along comes MikeH at

7702152 13.48 539.41

Mike will be in the lead with this score for a while winning at 539.41T sieve, or until Frodo enters the window at 7712506.

Frodo
7712305 13.44 537.99
7712506 13.44 537.97

If sieve reaches 537.97 before n= 7757229, frodo will win...

If not my

VJS
7757230 13.29 531.78

Will enter the window with a score of 100+K, winning.

Does anyone have any other factors out there???

VJS
7586383 13.90 556.00
7581644 13.91 556.70
7580348 13.92 556.89
7757230 13.29 531.78

Duramac
7680500 13.56 542.46
7685518 13.54 541.75
7685847 13.54 541.70*

Mikeh
7702152 13.48 539.41

Frodo
7712305 13.44 537.99
7712506 13.44 537.97

This message will be posted on the main page as well.... Please only respond here!!!

**MikeH** · 11-19-2004, 05:56 PM

Just a minor comment.

7586383 13.90 556.00

can never get to 100k. It's max bias is 13.87, and it's max score is 99775.593.

But you do still have some good candidates there

**vjs** · 11-19-2004, 06:02 PM

Arrgh, Good catch,

7586383 13.90 556.00 Isn't high enough but

7581644 13.91 556.70 Could make it,

Regardless I'm throwing in the towel on these 3, 7581644 may reach 100k but it won't be the first one to do so.

**vjs** · 11-19-2004, 06:27 PM

Also wanted to point out another what if...

If we were to get a prime

The possibility exists that that factor could score 0 ???

A unique factor scores as follows:
p > 40T, in ‘main active' window, 0 PRP tests performed, score = (n/1M ^ 2) * 125 * bias
p > 40T, k=prime; as above then frozen when a prime is found, factors found after the prime score 0

**Mystwalker** · 11-19-2004, 08:34 PM

So it seems like Duramac would win if the sieve production is at least 7T in the next 5 days...

For the right tip, I could divert computing power from PSP - for an even greater tip, I could let it be.

j/k

**dmbrubac** · 11-21-2004, 11:55 AM

I've dumped some more horsepower on my big range holding back the sieve point lately, so we might just get that 7T.

324000-329000 completed Nov 19
329000-329500 60% complete at 540 k/s
329500-330000 60% complete at 540 k/s
330000-333000 transfered to keroberts1
333000-333500 25% complete at 530 k/s
333500-334000 25% complete at 170 k/s

It looks like my Nov 24 guess was pretty good too! BTW I seem to now be known as Duramac!

**Mystwalker** · 11-21-2004, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by dmbrubac
BTW I seem to now be known as Duramac!

Not my fault - I just took it from the posting above...

**minbari** · 11-21-2004, 04:55 PM

All 3 of my reserved ranges; 514000-514400, 517000-517200, 518000-520000 according to sobistrator should be complete on Nov. 25th.

**vjs** · 11-22-2004, 10:00 AM

dmbrubac,

My appologies, not sure how that happend but it looks like I was the orginal poster on that screw-up.

**vjs** · 11-22-2004, 03:32 PM

With the sieve at 538.444T and n at 7674591,

Looks like Mikes,

7702152 13.48 539.41 should be capable of a 100K when it enters the window, <1G away.

The only question is if sieve can reach 541.70T before then...

7685847 13.54 541.70

So it's either going to be dmbrubac, or MikeH. I'm pretty sure I'm out of the race and it doesn't look good for Frodo.

**dmbrubac** · 11-22-2004, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by vjs
dmbrubac,

My appologies, not sure how that happend but it looks like I was the orginal poster on that screw-up.

No worries man, I just laughed.

**royanee** · 11-23-2004, 02:49 AM

Unless a new factor comes through, dmbrubac has this cat in the bag. As of this moment, no factor has a chance of getting into the top stop before one of his barring extremely strange circumstances. If you are plowing away trying to find some more factors: sieve, factor, and be merry! Good luck!!!

**pixl97** · 11-23-2004, 05:42 AM

pixl97 2137.522T 4847 7679247 99429.291 Mon 22-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 21.375 393910.815 53.44

Five Hundred Seventy One points from being the first 100K. So close, yet so far away!
edit...
hmmm, I guess as the sieve range increases the score does also.
2137.522T 4847 7679247 99576.934 Mon 22-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 21.375 393910.815 53.44

**vjs** · 11-23-2004, 11:08 AM

Lowest N required to reach 100K at present sieve level.

n=7695546 Current 90% T=540.345 Max Bais=13.51

Sorry Pixl97

prp has reached 7484477 by the time of this posting.

Meaning dmbrubac's 7680500 has scored and soon his largest at
7685847 13.54 541.70 will score.

Won't proclaim a winner 100% but looks like sieve will push one of his scores to 100k before another factor comes along.

**vjs** · 11-23-2004, 11:18 AM

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

7685518
7685847
7689298
7691621
7691751

I think dmbrubac has this one wrapped up, unless someone can slip in a factor???

**dmbrubac** · 11-23-2004, 12:10 PM

It's crazy how many factors I managed to get in that window. It was all planned too of course!

**vjs** · 11-23-2004, 12:12 PM

What type of settings did you use to find those factors, some of them are really pretty big.

Perhaps you have found an optimal setting of B1, B2 or something???

Really trying to get that 100K, hmmm...

**dmbrubac** · 11-23-2004, 12:41 PM

I tend to use the defaults because I don't understand how things work well enough to fiddle. I switched over to Prime95 about 6 weeks ago and I use the make_worktodo.pl script keroberts posted. Factor depth is 1.5 I think.

**Keroberts1** · 11-23-2004, 02:05 PM

wasn't me who posted it sorry

**dmbrubac** · 11-23-2004, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Keroberts1
wasn't me who posted it sorry

My apologies - hc_grove posted it.

**Death** · 11-23-2004, 02:55 PM

Largest scores
p (T) k n Score Factor found Score changed Score was Score could be Reqd bias
858.158T 21181 7680500 99609.432 Sat 13-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 8.582 158196.214 21.45 dmbrubac
2137.522T 4847 7679247 99576.934 Mon 22-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 21.375 393910.815 53.44 pixl97
554.760T 24737 7586383 97183.158 Mon 15-Nov-2004 99775.593 13.87 vjs

I suppose this happens in a next stat update!!!

congrats to all three winners!!!

**Death** · 11-24-2004, 04:15 AM

Largest scores
p (T) k n Score Factor found Score changed Score was Score could be Reqd bias
10479.524T 4847 7685847 100044.244 Wed 17-Nov-2004 Wed 24-Nov-2004 35.000 1934528.067 261.99 dmbrubac
2812.486T 55459 7685518 100035.680 Wed 17-Nov-2004 Wed 24-Nov-2004 28.125 519142.668 70.31 dmbrubac
858.158T 21181 7680500 99905.092 Sat 13-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 8.582 158196.214 21.45 dmbrubac
2137.522T 4847 7679247 99872.498 Mon 22-Nov-2004 Tue 23-Nov-2004 21.375 393910.815 53.44 pixl97
554.760T 24737 7586383 97471.616 Mon 15-Nov-2004 99775.593 13.87 vjs
563.834T 21181 7581644 97349.879 Wed 21-Jul-2004 Sat 13-Nov-2004 5.638 101280.964 14.10 vjs
4083.378T 21181 7580828 97328.925 Tue 23-Nov-2004 733335.750 102.08 hc_grove
557.208T 21181 7580348 97316.600 Sat 13-Nov-2004 100056.604 13.93 vjs
7401.097T 21181 7574444 97165.068 Mon 22-Nov-2004 1326928.837 185.03 hc_grove
476.869P 27653 7571949 97101.066 Fri 19-Nov-2004 85440657.529 9999.99 hc_grove
1652.447P 24737 7571191 97081.626 Fri 19-Nov-2004 296009769.058 9999.99 hc_grove
666.585T 21181 7567532 96987.814 Fri 26-Mar-2004 Sat 13-Nov-2004 6.666 119292.848 16.66 DeadJDona (death)

**MikeH** · 11-24-2004, 05:43 AM

Congratulations dmbrubac

**dmbrubac** · 11-24-2004, 06:25 AM

Thank-you! Thank-you!

I'd trade all this fame and glory for a prime though

**Nuri** · 11-24-2004, 09:17 AM

Congratulations.

Best luck in search for the primes to you & all...

**vjs** · 11-24-2004, 12:14 PM

Congrats dude,

It was nice to be king of the hill for a while but looks good from down hear as well.

Now lets chase after that next prime.

So what do you think about a 200K score, somewhere around n=8.5m and sieve around 900T???

**vjs** · 03-22-2005, 04:21 PM

Just thought I'd bring this post up from the past.

So who is going to score 200K...

What n and p?

To quote myself

somewhere around n=8.5m and sieve around 900T

Is obviously out...

It looks to me without calc'ing somewhere around a n=8.9M... and p would have to be above 800T

So unfortunately I don't think the winner will be a siever this time either

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