you lucky person, here i am stuck in the middle of nowhere, well west fife, my as well be, no cable out here so thus on BT to deal with and well Wanadoo, I get good enough service but it's getting real tempting to provider jump other than I really like the webspace I have, it's a subdomain so a large range of e-mail addresses are possible, i've not got a cap even although 512K kinda sucks sometimes, well that and the PC is needing a fix or 5, but hmm Im still making the list of programs I need to reinstall once I re do it.. Oh and as for upgrading it will cost me cash and well I get smacked with a limit, but that's between, me, you, the fence post, wanadoo and BT oh and the rest of the world.