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    Quote Originally Posted by ladypcer
    I think their point is that you are not actually doing more work. You are seeing higher credit due to an inflated benchmark, not due to extra work processed.
    At least that was how I understood it.

    I'm not judging you or any others, I'm just trying to explain what was told to me, and why others perceive running optimized windows boinc as "cheating".

    Oh, I agree with you about slow pc's getting big points because of the time it takes them to run a wu. It doesn't seem right to me either.
    Like I said, they just need to give wu's a certain point structure and award points by "finished" work.
    Thanks ladypcer. You've hit the nail right on the head I think. When projects get round to attaching scores to work throughput then we will all be on a level playing field.

    In the end the scores don't matter so much as the level of contribution to the science we each choose to assist. The points just make life interesting while we do it.

    Thanks to all contributers here for an informative debate on the subject.
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    Right now it's nothing but a big sham over @ the Rosetta Project with the Credits. I quit running the Project when I started seeing Host's getting over 2000 Credits for 1 3 hour WU & other Hosts averaging between 400-500 Credits per hour of processing ... I figured whats the point ...

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    I decided to run eOn, DPAD and WCG for now, with a little Climate thrown in.
    Now all I need is for eOn to quit sleeping, and DPAD to connect to server to send results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladypcer
    I decided to run eOn, DPAD and WCG for now, with a little Climate thrown in.
    Now all I need is for eOn to quit sleeping, and DPAD to connect to server to send results.
    There's a manualsend.bat in the DPAD folder that will force the upload if your results.txt file is over 10K in size.

    Otherwise - it seems to have a mind of it's own for sending.

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    new optimized linux clients

    I see there are new optimized linux clients available from:

    http://calbe.dw70.de/boinclx86.html

    Seems to give better benchmarks than before.

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    I started testing them yesterday and indeed for athlon XP's they seem faster, the SSE2 ones though seem about the same as the equivalent 5.3.6 ones. I'm goign to try the 64bit SSE3 one later today on a Dual xeon with EMT64..

    DC opterons don't have SSE3 do they? Fro some reason I thought they did, but




    [root@dcopt17001 ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
    processor : 0
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
    cpu family : 15
    model : 35
    model name : Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 170
    stepping : 2
    cpu MHz : 2409.649
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 2
    core id : 0
    cpu cores : 2
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 1
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy
    bogomips : 4828.94
    TLB size : 1024 4K pages
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management: ts fid vid ttp


    says otherwise...

    Bok

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    CPUZ v1.16
    x2-4200...
    MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, X86-64

    270...
    MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, X86-64

    That is what I get here Bok... So, no SSE3 .

    >>TeeJay


    Quote Originally Posted by Bok
    I started testing them yesterday and indeed for athlon XP's they seem faster, the SSE2 ones though seem about the same as the equivalent 5.3.6 ones. I'm goign to try the 64bit SSE3 one later today on a Dual xeon with EMT64..

    DC opterons don't have SSE3 do they? Fro some reason I thought they did, but




    [root@dcopt17001 ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
    processor : 0
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
    cpu family : 15
    model : 35
    model name : Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 170
    stepping : 2
    cpu MHz : 2409.649
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 2
    core id : 0
    cpu cores : 2
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 1
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy
    bogomips : 4828.94
    TLB size : 1024 4K pages
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management: ts fid vid ttp


    says otherwise...

    Bok

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    What is the recommended optimized client I should be using for my 4800x2 under WinXP? A couple of the sites listed in this thread don't work. I'm thinking my benchmarks are too low.

    Measured floating point speed 2298.2 million ops/sec
    Measured integer speed 4238.48 million ops/sec

    Thanks



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    C2D have
    3241 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
    7158 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
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